1 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:42,790 [Music] 2 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:45,760 the spoke radio for the masses headline 3 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,640 edition july 8 1947 4 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:50,559 the army air forces has announced that a 5 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,960 flying beast has been found and is now 6 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:54,719 in the possession of the army 7 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:57,440 if the game is rigged change the game 8 00:01:02,229 --> 00:00:59,440 game changer 9 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:02,239 i occasionally think how quickly 10 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:04,559 our differences worldwide 11 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:05,920 would vanish 12 00:01:12,010 --> 00:01:08,640 if we were facing an alien threat from 13 00:01:14,789 --> 00:01:12,020 outside this world 14 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:14,799 [Applause] 15 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:17,600 this is fade to black with your host 16 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:20,320 jimmy church on the game changer radio 17 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:23,439 network and kgra the global radio 18 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:29,270 i need your help to get to the year 19 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:36,149 [Music] 20 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:38,240 you are listening to fate to black with 21 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:41,220 jimmy judge on the game changer network 22 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:47,680 [Music] 23 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:50,159 good evening fade to black i am your 24 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:52,399 host jimmy church 25 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:02,630 today's monday march 14 2022 26 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,560 73 days into the new year only 292 days 27 00:02:10,969 --> 00:02:09,520 left let's do this 28 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:10,979 man 29 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:15,350 [Music] 30 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:23,030 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 31 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,040 the middle of nowhere a total 32 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:27,760 undisclosed location 33 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:30,239 but it is beautiful in here i would like 34 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:31,599 to welcome everybody listening all 35 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:34,319 around the world all across the united 36 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,519 states 37 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,440 hither and tether to and fro back and 38 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:39,599 forth up and down east and west north 39 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:41,440 and south 40 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,599 far and near 41 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,080 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 42 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:48,239 changer and on x networks i am your host 43 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:51,440 jimmy church what is cracking everybody 44 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:54,160 how you doing 45 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:56,720 this week on fade to black it is another 46 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,480 completely first time guests week here 47 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:02,239 on the show 48 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:05,280 tonight for the first time dave scott 49 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:08,640 host of spaced out radio joins us 50 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:11,200 tomorrow night tom dango is here from 51 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:13,200 sedona for the first time 52 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:14,720 we're going to talk about the bradshaw 53 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:18,640 ranch and wednesday night jazz shaw 54 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:21,040 jasha stopping by for the first time and 55 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,640 we're going to be discussing all of his 56 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:24,480 latest articles in journalism when it 57 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:26,640 comes to ufos and uaps 58 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:28,640 then thursday night is another fader 59 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:32,000 night with open lines all night long all 60 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:34,480 right i've got a busy night here on the 61 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:35,840 show tonight 62 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:38,400 and uh so let's just get straight to it 63 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:41,040 you can follow me on twitter at j church 64 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:45,200 radio at j church radio and i need as 65 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:47,680 many followers as i can 66 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:49,200 because i'm trying to catch up with dave 67 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:53,680 schrader and the sandbox is hashtag f2b 68 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:55,519 on twitter come and hang out with us 69 00:04:00,429 --> 00:03:58,000 there we don't bite and any questions or 70 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,439 comments during the show tonight 71 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:03,360 f2bq hello to everybody listening and 72 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:06,159 watching all around the world 73 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:11,200 and uh busy night and i am going to uh 74 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:13,200 uh get straight to it let's get to the 75 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:16,000 breaking news 80 million 76 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:18,880 instagram users in russia were notified 77 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:20,880 that the service will cease 78 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:25,280 as of midnight yesterday sunday an email 79 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:26,639 message from russia's state 80 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:29,440 communications regulator told users to 81 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:31,360 move their photos and videos from 82 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:34,160 instagram before it was shut down and 83 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:36,240 encouraged them to switch to russia's 84 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:37,199 own 85 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:40,720 competitive internet platforms whatever 86 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:43,199 that means russian authorities already 87 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:45,840 had blocked facebook access back on 88 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:48,880 march 4th citing discrimination against 89 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:52,880 russian state media on the platform 90 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:55,199 now check this out 91 00:05:01,270 --> 00:04:58,720 roughly 60 years ago an archaeologist 92 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:01,280 snapped photos of several skeletons 93 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:04,560 buried in an 8 000 year old grave in 94 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:06,320 southern portugal 95 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:09,360 now a new analysis of those previously 96 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:12,160 undeveloped photos suggest that the 97 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:14,240 oldest human mummies 98 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:18,000 don't hail from egypt or even chile 99 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:19,360 but rather 100 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:20,560 europe 101 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:22,800 mummification was used in ancient egypt 102 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:25,520 as we know about 4 500 years ago in 103 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:29,120 europe dating from about 1000 bc 104 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:31,120 but the newly identified mummy in 105 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:33,919 portugal is the oldest ever found and 106 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,479 predates the previous record holders 107 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:38,639 mummies in the coastal region of chile's 108 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:43,039 atacama desert by about 1 000 years and 109 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:45,280 there are signs that other bodies buried 110 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:48,080 at the site may also have been mummified 111 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,160 which suggests that the practice could 112 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:52,800 have been widespread in portugal at this 113 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:53,919 time 114 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:57,759 absolutely incredible breaking news now 115 00:06:03,590 --> 00:05:59,680 it has been announced 116 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,600 that snl star pete davidson is going to 117 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:05,759 space he's going to do it on blue 118 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:09,120 origin's 20th space mission which is set 119 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:13,120 to launch in nine days on march 23rd the 120 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:15,360 saturday night live star and five other 121 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:17,360 people are scheduled to fly to sub 122 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:20,240 orbital space aboard blue origins new 123 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:21,919 shepard vehicle 124 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:24,479 the liftoff is targeted for 9 30 a.m 125 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:27,600 eastern time from blue origins launch 126 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,240 facility in west texas 127 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:33,039 dolly parton announced today 128 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:35,120 that she's taking herself out of the 129 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:37,520 running for the rock and roll hall of 130 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:41,440 fame's 2022 class of inductees 131 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:45,520 that's crazy news now over the weekend 132 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:48,400 earth got hit by an asteroid i bet you 133 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:50,319 didn't know that did you 134 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:53,360 just two hours after it was first 135 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:54,560 discovered 136 00:07:01,990 --> 00:06:58,800 designated 2022 eb-5 the small rocky 137 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:02,000 object impacted the planet a march 11th 138 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:04,479 just north of iceland 139 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:08,639 at nine feet wide 2022 eb5 was unlikely 140 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:11,520 to cause a tsunami or level an entire 141 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,800 city 142 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:15,039 but it would have sucked if it hit my 143 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,680 house let's get this show cracking happy 144 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:19,680 birthday to today 145 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:21,440 michael kane 146 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:25,039 is 89 the cider house rules the italian 147 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:27,440 job kingsman 148 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:31,919 89 years old billy crystal today is 74. 149 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:33,919 and when i think of billy crystal i just 150 00:07:39,189 --> 00:07:36,160 think of the movie spinal tap quincy 151 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,199 jones today is 89 and our dead guy's 152 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:41,360 birthday today is 153 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:43,560 albert einstein 154 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:48,080 1879 to 1955 died at the age of 76 155 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:50,160 albert is widely acknowledged to be one 156 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:53,039 of the greatest physicists of all time 157 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:55,039 he developed the theory of relativity 158 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:56,879 helped develop the theory of quantum 159 00:08:03,110 --> 00:07:59,599 mechanics and both are the two pillars 160 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:03,120 of modern physics his e equals m c 161 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:05,280 squared is called the world's most 162 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:07,120 famous equation 163 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:08,879 and i say it every time i want to sound 164 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:12,639 smart he received the 1921 nobel prize 165 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:14,960 in physics and his intellectual 166 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:17,440 achievements and originality resulted in 167 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:18,800 einstein 168 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:20,560 becoming synonymous 169 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,560 with genius 170 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:24,560 albert died at the university medical 171 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:26,479 center princeton in plainsboro new 172 00:08:29,070 --> 00:08:27,520 jersey 173 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:29,080 on april 18th 174 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:32,080 1955 at the age of 76. 175 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:35,599 on this day in history 1958 176 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:38,479 the first gold record is awarded 177 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,680 to perry como for catch a falling star 178 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:44,000 and here's your fader fact this is 179 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:46,399 vetted this is real 180 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:48,720 this is a fader fact 181 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:52,399 norway's princess martha louise 182 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:55,760 the king of norway's firstborn 183 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:57,760 is a clairvoyant 184 00:09:02,230 --> 00:08:59,839 she started a school for communicating 185 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:02,240 with angels and dead souls and is 186 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:03,920 currently dating 187 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:05,600 a shaman 188 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:07,120 and that 189 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:08,959 is your fader fact tonight dave scott 190 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:10,880 host of spaced out radio joins us for 191 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:13,360 the first time tomorrow night tom dango 192 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:15,360 is here live from sedona we're going to 193 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,440 be talking about the bradshaw ranch he's 194 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:19,680 also joining us for the first time then 195 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:22,720 wednesday night jazz shaw stopping by 196 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,880 also for the first time to talk about 197 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:26,720 his latest articles 198 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:29,600 on ufos and uaps thursday nights another 199 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:31,200 fader night with open lines all night 200 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:34,560 long and now i've got a big announcement 201 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:37,920 to make i'm gonna do it right now 202 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,959 after fade to black tonight 203 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:42,480 is the premiere 204 00:09:48,470 --> 00:09:46,080 of the paranormal 60 with dave schrader 205 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:48,480 and i'm very excited about this this is 206 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:50,480 a big deal i want to welcome dave over 207 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:53,360 of course to the unex network but i 208 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:55,360 thought to myself i'm in a moment i'm in 209 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,720 a spot 210 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:58,560 and i want to make this announcement i 211 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:00,320 want to make it special what do i do 212 00:10:06,069 --> 00:10:03,200 what do i what do i do 213 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:06,079 well i call dave schroeder and say dave 214 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:08,240 how you doing brother 215 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:10,079 i'm doing well jimmy thanks for having 216 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:11,120 me on 217 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:13,519 you're the absolute best and welcome 218 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:16,800 welcome to the kunx family man yeah it's 219 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,399 pretty exciting i'm glad to be a part of 220 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:20,880 this as a lot of uh people know maybe 221 00:10:24,949 --> 00:10:22,880 your listeners are not familiar with i 222 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:24,959 stepped away from darkness radio earlier 223 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:27,600 this year um after january 1st 224 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:29,519 uh turning the the reigns over to tim 225 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,240 dennis after 16 years of of hosting the 226 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:34,240 show and i took a couple of months off 227 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,160 and then i've rebooted now with a new 228 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:38,720 show called the paranormal 60. uh it is 229 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:41,040 what it is a 60-minute concise 230 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:43,600 paranormal podcast where we talk usually 231 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:46,079 to two different guests every episode we 232 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:47,839 examine different elements of their 233 00:10:52,230 --> 00:10:49,519 stories and try to get right to the meat 234 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:52,240 of the story uh i'm trying to create the 235 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:54,480 tick tock of the paranormal radio world 236 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:55,680 jimmy 237 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:57,440 and you're gonna pull that off in 60 238 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:59,360 minutes and this is yeah this is what i 239 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:00,800 was thinking 240 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,240 uh when you were 241 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:04,560 uh telling me about the show 242 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:06,560 and i was picturing it it i was 243 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:08,480 picturing it like and i'm gonna i'm just 244 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,440 gonna say it 245 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:11,680 like the 60 minutes of the paranormal 246 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,720 world 247 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,800 right you're going to get in and get out 248 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:16,640 in 60 minutes with nothing but the good 249 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,600 stuff 250 00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:19,680 yes that's that's our hopes and now you 251 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:21,680 know i did i think six episodes of the 252 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:24,399 paranormal 60 this last friday i 253 00:11:29,829 --> 00:11:27,360 introduced the paranormal 60 minutes uh 254 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:29,839 so we are doing now a news program once 255 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:31,839 a week and i have four correspondents 256 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:34,000 including myself that will be talking 257 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:35,600 we're each bringing new stories we find 258 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:37,200 fascinating we're going to bandy it back 259 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:39,360 and forth converse about it i've got 260 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:41,279 i've got guys uh that were former 261 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:44,480 military and law enforcement so i've got 262 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:46,480 some really great perspectives involved 263 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:48,320 in kind of talking about the stories not 264 00:11:51,829 --> 00:11:50,240 just reporting them but then weighing in 265 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:51,839 on them from our perspective and and 266 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:53,680 just having some fun with it 267 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:57,360 and then monday nights is more of the 268 00:12:02,230 --> 00:11:59,600 uh interview style shows so like i said 269 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:02,240 we'll do an intro i uh i'll have one 270 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:04,079 guest on we may talk you know like 271 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:07,040 tonight lena swanson is an animal 272 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,639 communicator a spirit animal 273 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:10,560 communicator and she's going to talk to 274 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:13,360 us about you know can dogs cats our pets 275 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:15,760 really see spirits 276 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:17,839 and how do we communicate with our pets 277 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,360 telepathically 278 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:20,880 so we spend a little time with her 279 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:23,040 dustin perry from tv's ghost hunters 280 00:12:27,269 --> 00:12:24,959 joins me in the second half of the show 281 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,279 and uh he he does a segment called upon 282 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:29,040 further review which i'm gonna tap you 283 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:31,440 for here soon sir sure it's a movie 284 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:33,200 review segment where i send my buddies 285 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:35,600 off to watch some old horror movie that 286 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:38,560 i've chosen or paranormal themed movie 287 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:40,639 uh ones that people may have forgotten 288 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:43,680 about and uh and have them watch it and 289 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:45,200 kind of review back to me it does it 290 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:47,680 stand up to time is it is it a classic 291 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,760 or is it a let's just let this be 292 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:51,600 forgotten and never ever talk of it 293 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:53,120 again and we've had a lot of fun with 294 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:54,320 that i've had a lot of great little 295 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:56,480 guests pop in and do that um so you know 296 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:58,320 it's it's and then tonight's scare 297 00:13:02,389 --> 00:12:59,600 shares as well so we've got a bunch of 298 00:13:04,069 --> 00:13:02,399 cool weird paranormal stories from 299 00:13:06,069 --> 00:13:04,079 viewers and listeners and we've got 300 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:06,079 little videos that will be playing on 301 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,920 the youtube version you'll hear the 302 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:09,519 audio version on the podcast that's 303 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:13,120 right here on the on x network now how 304 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:15,200 uh how do you choose the subjects 305 00:13:20,069 --> 00:13:17,200 because underneath 306 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:20,079 paranormal and supernatural you've got 307 00:13:26,629 --> 00:13:24,000 about 150 000 uh categories 308 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:26,639 right so what are you going to focus on 309 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:28,560 with the paranormal 60 310 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:30,720 i you know i don't want to focus on any 311 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:32,639 one specific thing i'm going to leave 312 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,120 conspiracies out of it right pretty much 313 00:13:39,189 --> 00:13:37,360 because that's just not my my realm and 314 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:39,199 i've stepped away from doing true crime 315 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,600 unless it has a paranormal element to it 316 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:43,440 uh that just got too dark and was really 317 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:46,399 bogging me down mentally after doing 10 318 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,680 years of reporting on true crime uh so 319 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,279 this will be everything from ghosts to 320 00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:53,839 ufos bigfoot psychic phenomena monsters 321 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,800 myths legends and just exploring all the 322 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,959 different fun aspects of these stories 323 00:14:02,470 --> 00:14:01,360 and and like i said each interview and i 324 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:02,480 joked around at the beginning saying 325 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:04,800 it's the tick tock generation 326 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:06,160 program but 327 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:08,000 you know people are are consuming our 328 00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:09,920 type of shows in a different way now and 329 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:11,680 they want short and concise in some 330 00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:12,800 matters so i'm going to be the 331 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:15,199 alternative to guys like you who do 332 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,360 great long-form interviews now they can 333 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:19,760 come in here a segment with me and and 334 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:22,079 the guest here kind of the meat i'd 335 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:23,920 rather leave them wanting more than 336 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:25,279 wishing they would have been let go 30 337 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:27,440 minutes ago with me 338 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:28,240 so 339 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:29,199 i'm trying to have a little bit of fun 340 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:31,440 with it and keep it fresh and moving for 341 00:14:37,189 --> 00:14:34,880 me you know 16 17 years of doing long 342 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:37,199 form uh i'm leaving that to tim to deal 343 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:38,720 with on darkness radio now i'm just 344 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:40,000 gonna do this my way and kind of have a 345 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:41,040 little bit more fun with it i'm 346 00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:43,519 introducing new segments um you know 347 00:14:46,389 --> 00:14:44,959 i've got experts that'll pop in and do 348 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:46,399 little bits and sometimes guests that'll 349 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:48,000 come on just to answer a specific 350 00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:49,519 question from a listener and that'll be 351 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:51,519 all we have them on for so we're just 352 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,360 gonna try to mix it up as we go along 353 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:56,000 and it's wherever the win takes me uh 354 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:57,600 you know i've got some interesting shows 355 00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,800 coming up on uh psychic detectives 356 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:03,199 and i've got some interesting uh shows 357 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:05,440 coming up on witchcraft and witches that 358 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,680 we're gonna look at uh how to ghost hunt 359 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:09,440 uh the witchcraft way and different 360 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:11,440 topics like that so i'm just trying to 361 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:12,639 keep it 362 00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:14,959 moving and interesting now 363 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:17,199 while i've got you and this is great i 364 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:19,680 mean i know that we talk a lot off of 365 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:22,000 the air but having you on i just enjoy 366 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:24,959 our conversations and you just stirred 367 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:27,120 the pot right there with me 368 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:30,560 when you mention old horror movies 369 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:33,360 and do they still stand up now when you 370 00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:36,000 say that what give me 371 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:37,759 give me an idea what 372 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:40,160 what title what movie pops in your head 373 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:43,040 first all right the first one i sent uh 374 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:45,360 jeff belanger who's a longtime friend of 375 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,199 mine i i asked him to do the first one 376 00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:48,639 and i sent him to watch knight of the 377 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:50,959 lepis 378 00:15:57,269 --> 00:15:54,000 are you familiar with that i am i am the 379 00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:57,279 giant mutant rabbit yes yes yes it's got 380 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,079 deforest kelly it's got janet lee i mean 381 00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:02,079 it's got some big names attached to this 382 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:06,560 movie and we we cannot figure out why 383 00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:09,279 but um and then i had shane pittman from 384 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:11,839 the holzer files on you know my my uh 385 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:13,759 co-investigator who i always sent to the 386 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:15,440 basement and i of course i made him 387 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:19,040 watch a 19 i think it was a 1977 movie 388 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:20,800 called don't look in the basement oh 389 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,160 that's a fantastic movie yeah 390 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:25,920 it's a weird one that's up 391 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,440 that's up there man 392 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:29,360 yeah and so it's just you know whatever 393 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:31,040 whim hits me tonight 394 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:32,079 i'll tell you what i'll give you a 395 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:34,240 little preview of it dustin perry 396 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:36,079 i sent him to watch a movie to kind of 397 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,839 tie in with the first guest animal 398 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:39,279 communication 399 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:41,120 so i said i'm going to send you into 400 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:44,320 what i think was one of the first 401 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:46,720 cinematic titans coming together when 402 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,720 you think of schwarzenegger and stallone 403 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:50,800 you had to wait until the 2000s to see 404 00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:53,279 the two of them share the screen sure 405 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:55,920 i'm talking a movie from 1980 when two 406 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:58,240 of these stars were at their apex at 407 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:00,480 their zenith of popularity 408 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:02,959 benji and chevy chase in the movie oh 409 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,909 which was i don't know if you remember 410 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,600 it it was a great little deal chevy 411 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:11,760 chase is a private detective who gets 412 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:14,000 murdered and gets reincarnated into 413 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:16,000 benji and he has to try to solve his own 414 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,000 murder it's awesome it's an awesome 415 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,720 movie it's an awesome movie and okay 416 00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:23,039 now and let me throw this out there 417 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:25,839 because um i'm a big fan 418 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,440 of of old horror and old sci-fi i i just 419 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:31,600 love it i watch it all the time 420 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,840 and way too much like an unhealthy 421 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,840 amount i might add 422 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:37,919 i just recently 423 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:41,039 went back and watched the original the 424 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,240 mummy 425 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,160 and then i followed that up with the 426 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:47,200 mummy returns okay boris karloff 427 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,110 terrified me 428 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,120 now when i was a kid 429 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:56,160 watching it you know in 1970 in black 430 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,520 and white on on channel 32 in chicago or 431 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:00,480 whatever 432 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:02,640 uh creature features 433 00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,760 right all right wfld i watched those i 434 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:07,679 was in chicago at the same time it 435 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:11,120 scared me to death right okay so 436 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,080 uh 437 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,120 it still holds up it still holds up and 438 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:17,440 we're talking about 1932 439 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,919 yeah but those classic universal monster 440 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:20,960 movies 441 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:23,200 were done so brilliantly that you can 442 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:25,760 watch them today 443 00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:28,720 and they still hold the same charm 444 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:29,679 and 445 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:33,600 perspective that i think a lot of people 446 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:34,720 miss out on because they don't want to 447 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:37,120 watch black and white movies right right 448 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,840 and when you watch the original dracula 449 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:42,160 frankenstein the wolf man right the 450 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,360 creature from the black lagoon the mummy 451 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,000 it's it transports you right even going 452 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,559 in night of the living dead you know and 453 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:52,720 seeing some of these classics 454 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,280 and you realize i it never hit me until 455 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:56,960 i was out in california two years ago 456 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:59,280 and i was doing one of the studio tours 457 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:00,240 and they were talking about the 458 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:02,160 popularity of the monster movies and 459 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:03,280 they said do you know when those were 460 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,200 the best is during 461 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:07,360 cataclysmic times when it was wartime or 462 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,679 depression or things that were going on 463 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,360 people were drawn 464 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:13,440 to the horror movies and they exploded 465 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:14,640 in theaters 466 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,760 and i just thought that was an 467 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,760 interesting way and i think because that 468 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,840 cyclical nature continues people are 469 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:21,919 still drawn to those originals the bride 470 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,400 of frankenstein you don't see horror 471 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:26,799 movies done that way now we're all about 472 00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,440 the special effects we've strayed from 473 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,679 storytelling in a lot of ways 474 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:33,760 that i think you know i don't need to 475 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,480 see a retelling of a classic story 476 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:38,880 unless you're going to make it a good 477 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:41,919 story and character-driven development 478 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,960 when i was uh i was probably eight you 479 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:47,039 know i'm gonna guess right the original 480 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:48,240 dracula 481 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,200 and that movie affected me so much and 482 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,960 and i don't know did you just admit that 483 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:54,559 you were eight when the original dracula 484 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,000 came out in 1932 that's right what i i 485 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:00,720 look great jim i'm 92. it's all of those 486 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,080 supplements 487 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,280 line 488 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,000 that to this day i can't wait for it to 489 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,240 come up i used to rep i was eight and i 490 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:13,120 don't know how i but it was that scene 491 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:16,720 when dracula his assistant has arrived 492 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,880 for the first time and they go and they 493 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:20,640 open up a bottle of wine 494 00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,039 and he pours the assistant pours one and 495 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:25,520 he offers them to dracula and dracula 496 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:28,720 goes i don't drink wine 497 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,039 right and it's a little foreshadowing 498 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:34,320 for for my entire life i don't drink 499 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:35,440 wine 500 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,440 it's like one of the best lines ever and 501 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:39,120 it just freaked me then what do you 502 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,280 drink bro oh blood 503 00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,919 you know it just stuck with me stuck 504 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,159 with me i love old horror movies 505 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:50,400 let me throw another one out there that 506 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,080 i still think holds up 507 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,799 the original the thing 508 00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,640 yes i agree 509 00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,799 i agree but john carpenter's version of 510 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:01,280 the thing and then the 511 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,480 reimagined sequel the prequel that came 512 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,400 out a few years ago was a great movie as 513 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:08,480 well so i you know that's fascinating 514 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:11,760 how about uh don't forget the uh 515 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:15,520 body snatchers oh man right yeah and uh 516 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:20,710 invasion of the body snatchers and then 517 00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:23,280 they did body snatchers in the 70s with 518 00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,559 leonard nimoy and uh god now i can't 519 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,000 think of the other actors in it but they 520 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:30,240 had these great uh donald sutherland 521 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:31,760 donald sutherland 522 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,280 right and the original was great uh 523 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:37,200 mccarty and then yeah kevin mccarty 524 00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,000 kevin kevin mccarty uh who was really 525 00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:42,799 great in strategic air command right 526 00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,760 so um i'm gonna tell you a quick kevin 527 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:47,679 mccarty story i'm gonna do this in 60 528 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,880 seconds 529 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,559 working at this uh 530 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,960 uh audio repair place right i'm like a 531 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,000 manager 532 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,080 and he comes in and needs something 533 00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:58,799 repaired speakers or something 534 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:01,840 and his granddaughter took dance classes 535 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,400 next door right so he stops in 536 00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,960 and uh and i go dude 537 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:09,039 strategic air command he goes yeah man 538 00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,799 that was a that was a great movie not my 539 00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,679 favorite though i said oh really what's 540 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:14,880 your favorite 541 00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:17,440 body snatchers straight from kevin's 542 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,559 mouth man straight from kevin's mouth 543 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,000 and uh 544 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,080 it was just 545 00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,320 even for him because that movie the 546 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:28,799 original version of it uh donald 547 00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:31,360 sutherland and and the remake was 548 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,360 actually that was a class a film there's 549 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,200 nothing wrong with that film right but 550 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:37,360 but the original with kevin mccarthy 551 00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,400 that was uh original in concept 552 00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:42,559 and just uh a frightening movie it was 553 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,679 just scary and it was his favorite 554 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,200 and that's what i love revisiting some 555 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,880 of these classics that a lot of people 556 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:51,200 may not remember may not have heard of 557 00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,720 and look you know a lot of my friends 558 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:54,880 have seen horror movies or they've seen 559 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,760 paranormal themed movies and 560 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,360 what i've enjoyed is the challenge of 561 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,880 sending them in to watch a movie they 562 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:03,280 have never heard of or seen yet 563 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:04,559 here i'm going to give you one other one 564 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,360 here take out your pen put the pie down 565 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,600 okay take out a pen don't you ever tell 566 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:12,240 me to put my pie down jimmy 567 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,840 all right what have we got don't be 568 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,600 afraid of the dark 569 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:16,960 oh yeah 570 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,360 don't be afraid i watched it again i 571 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,400 watched it again that movie 572 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:24,880 man i think that was made for television 573 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:27,520 probably came out in 72 and and saw it 574 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,720 on tv and and here i am in 2022 still 575 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,159 talking about it 576 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,480 don't be afraid of the dark here's a 577 00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:36,799 here's a great horror movie that does 578 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:39,039 not get its justice or it's due you 579 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,559 can't even find it on any of the 580 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,360 streaming services not even on youtube 581 00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,760 and it was a movie called the other 582 00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,919 what is that hold on 583 00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,799 yeah 584 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,200 well how do i watch it then not the 585 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,520 others which was nicole kidman it's 586 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,600 called the other and it's about these 587 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,159 two twin boys growing up at like the 588 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,840 turn of the century 589 00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:01,200 and 590 00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:02,960 there's everything from kind of remote 591 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,159 viewing and gypsy lore and just it's 592 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:08,320 it's chaotic through this entire thing 593 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,400 and you're following kind of these one 594 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,960 good twin and one kind of darker more 595 00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:14,240 evil twin 596 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,039 and 597 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,279 i think it was um john ritter's first 598 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,440 movie he's a bit player in the movie but 599 00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,159 it's just uh udahgen is in it there's a 600 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,159 lot of great actors that are just 601 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:26,240 powerful in their delivery you could 602 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,919 find it on dvd 603 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,000 on amazon but you can't find a streaming 604 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:32,640 version of it so if you can ever locate 605 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,360 it watch it i promise you it will be one 606 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,880 that sets you back going 607 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:38,960 if we're gonna recreate all of these 608 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,200 crap movies why aren't we looking at a 609 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:42,960 classic like this that is good 610 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,360 storytelling that that they missed out 611 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,360 on and bring it back 612 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:50,240 now uh you've got such a busy schedule 613 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:54,080 um now uh paranormal 60 614 00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,200 is 615 00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,679 right 616 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:00,559 and and you are releasing content once a 617 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:01,760 week 618 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,919 an episode of paranormal 60 monday 619 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,000 night's right after your show right and 620 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,320 then i've been talking with race about 621 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,640 uh we're doing a second show during the 622 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,320 week called the paranormal 60 minutes 623 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,000 which is a new show and we'll kind of 624 00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,080 cover some of the cool headlines from 625 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,919 this past week some of the weird stuff 626 00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:21,840 that falls into the realm that we're so 627 00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,279 fascinated by 628 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:25,679 and uh that i'll be releasing as a 629 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,480 podcast on fridays um straight to 630 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,480 podcast i believe uh ray said that he 631 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,400 might just put it into rotation so it's 632 00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,080 on the onyx network playing throughout 633 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:36,159 the day and at different times so you 634 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,240 can keep listening and you'll find us as 635 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,480 we progress with that one as well man i 636 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,640 gotta get my dave schrader fix uh the 637 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,279 more the the more the better man and and 638 00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:47,120 welcome to the family my friend thank 639 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,799 you we've been working pleasure i'm 640 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,480 going to let the audience know uh we've 641 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,799 been working on this for a while 642 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,799 and and here we are we're pulling this 643 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,279 off and the premiere is tonight and it 644 00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,200 could make me happier dave schrader 645 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,279 you're the absolute very best my friend 646 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,640 hey thank you and thank you for 647 00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:04,880 encouraging onex to bring me on if i can 648 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,480 make one quick mention go to 649 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,600 darknessevents.com folks i've got a cool 650 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:12,000 event coming up at the randolph asylum 651 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,440 memorial day weekend holzer files uh 652 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:17,120 road trip i guess shane pittman and 653 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,480 myself are going to be there along with 654 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,640 jeff belanger kitsy duncan stormy 655 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,880 daniels we're going to be investigating 656 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,960 we've got two days of talks a paranormal 657 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,039 pizza party on friday 658 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,480 overnight ghost hunts it's going to be a 659 00:26:33,310 --> 00:26:30,559 blast tickets are on sale we have single 660 00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,320 day and full weekend tickets at 661 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:35,120 darknessevents.com and i hope your 662 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:36,480 listeners will join us as we go out 663 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,440 there and i hope they'll check out 664 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:39,679 paranormal 60. that 665 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,080 wait wait wait wait 666 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,520 did you say stormy daniels yes i did 667 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,400 stormy daniels paranormal investigator 668 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,240 yes she actually she's got a program 669 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,240 called spooky babes where she goes out 670 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:53,760 with some of her friends to investigate 671 00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:55,760 some of these locations right 672 00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:58,960 her fascination has been for 673 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,919 uh years with the supernatural and she's 674 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:04,000 had paranormal experiences she's a 675 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:05,600 practicing witch 676 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,080 and as a matter of fact in the news what 677 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,080 uh not even a month ago she was just 678 00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,240 dragged back into the news because her 679 00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:14,960 her former attorney michael avenatti 680 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,679 um was brought back into trial because 681 00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,840 the fbi while researching all the other 682 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:21,600 fraud and things he'd done came across 683 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,880 the 300 000 in checks he had stolen from 684 00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:27,039 stormy daniels so she became their key 685 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,159 witness 686 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,240 he fired his attorney and became his own 687 00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,840 attorney and went on the attack of the 688 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,279 paranormal 689 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,360 he he went after her for six hours of 690 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,880 cross-examination 691 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,720 challenging that she's a witch she must 692 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,640 be crazy she's seeing the paranormal she 693 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,320 must be crazy she has a haunted doll she 694 00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,880 must be crazy and not to be believed 695 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,279 so it's a fascinating deal and she stood 696 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,520 up for herself on this man she she held 697 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,080 into court for six hours respectfully 698 00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,600 and 699 00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,360 she loves paranormal she's a great 700 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,960 investigator she really enjoys doing 701 00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,559 this and it's her first time to come out 702 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,559 to one of these events with us so um i 703 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,840 know there's controversy that always 704 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,039 surrounds it but i look past the 705 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,399 controversy and i just look at somebody 706 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,480 that shares a passion in what we do yeah 707 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,080 and going out to these locations and 708 00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:09,919 she's bringing susie her haunted doll 709 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:11,919 that helps her communicate and connect 710 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,559 with the other spirits um jeff belanger 711 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,559 from ghost adventures he's the lead 712 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,720 writer for the entire series and you've 713 00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:20,880 seen him at tons of of conferences and 714 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,520 he's on shock docs left and right myself 715 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:25,200 and and shane pittman will be there so 716 00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,240 we're just gonna have a great weekend 717 00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,880 and i'll get stormy on your show here 718 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:30,799 dave 719 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,520 you are the absolute best and uh tell 720 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,440 stormy i said hello and i'll speak to 721 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,279 you soon thank you so much dave take 722 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,520 care see you soon dave schrader 723 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,399 premiering after fade to black tonight 724 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,279 the paranormal 60. i am your host jimmy 725 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,120 church this is fade to black i'm going 726 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:48,880 to take a quick break and when i come 727 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:49,760 back 728 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:52,960 it's dave scott host of spaced out radio 729 00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,279 joining us for the first time this is 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is rob reiner from anvil and 819 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,120 you're listening to jimmy's 820 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:39,269 what's up i'm chris what up this is 821 00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,950 all right welcome back fade to black i 822 00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,640 am your host jimmy church 823 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,720 what an amazing week we've got on the 824 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,480 show we have three 825 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,120 three first-time guests this week 826 00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,359 dave scott tonight from space out radio 827 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,599 is joining us we've got a crazy night 828 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,040 ahead 829 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,950 i'll get to more of that in just a 830 00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,800 second it is a true double header with 831 00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:20,320 an overlap in the middle it's gonna be 832 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,280 awesome 833 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:24,560 and then uh tomorrow night uh tom dango 834 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,200 joins us uh from sedona we're gonna 835 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:29,119 discuss the bradshaw ranch also first 836 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:31,040 time guest and then wednesday night jazz 837 00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:32,000 shaw 838 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,760 is stopping by another first time guest 839 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,440 what a great week on the show i love 840 00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,079 first time guests especially after 2000 841 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,159 shows you know and still 842 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,399 still first time guests are in order 843 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,879 tonight it's dave scott host of spaced 844 00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,000 out radio 845 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,639 and uh he broadcasts worldwide out of 846 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,240 british columbia canada this 847 00:34:55,149 --> 00:34:52,000 cutting-edge alternative radio show can 848 00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:55,159 be heard monday through friday at 849 00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,000 spacedoutradio.com he received a diploma 850 00:35:03,349 --> 00:34:59,920 in broadcast communications from one of 851 00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:03,359 canada's top broadcasting schools bcit 852 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:06,800 in 1998 spent 10 years in radio 853 00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,800 and sports does that sound familiar 854 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:13,200 before dropping all of that and pursuing 855 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,640 this stuff 856 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,240 that's right we're going to discuss 857 00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:18,560 tonight how he got here and we're going 858 00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,119 to do all of that and then 2014 he 859 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,320 launched spaced out radio and now 860 00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,160 he's my competition i would like to 861 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,599 welcome for the first time to faith to 862 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:29,680 black dave scott dave how you doing my 863 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:30,640 brother 864 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,599 jimmy 865 00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,880 so much me with you man it's been uh a 866 00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,800 long time coming but we're glad to have 867 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:38,960 uh this opportunity to be on with you 868 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:41,599 yeah you know we've been pulling this uh 869 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:44,240 string for a long time and it was just 870 00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:45,839 kind of one of those things where it was 871 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,359 just like church and i was like scott 872 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,680 let's go man let's uh let's get this 873 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,240 thing out of the way uh but you get the 874 00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,800 first time guest disclaimer dave scott 875 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,680 oh do i yeah you do which is uh dave 876 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,359 it's just you and i sitting on my couch 877 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:03,119 having a conversation as friends and 878 00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:04,400 where that conversation starts and 879 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,400 starts where it ends and ends but we're 880 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,920 going to end his friends we're already 881 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,359 friends but uh 882 00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,720 there you go there's the first time a 883 00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:12,800 guest disclaimer and here 884 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,800 um uh i kind of oh okay let me lay this 885 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,720 out for everybody really quick so you 886 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,800 can kind of understand what's going to 887 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:22,800 go on tonight and 888 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,520 uh hopefully we are going to have a ton 889 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,240 of technical issues and you can watch 890 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,040 dave and i uh steer through this in real 891 00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,839 time but we're gonna dave's gonna be on 892 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:36,000 with us uh for the next hour hour and a 893 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:36,800 half 894 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,440 then we're gonna do in the middle 895 00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,200 a simulcast 896 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:43,119 so we're going to be on each other's 897 00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:44,079 show 898 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:45,839 at the same time 899 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,200 and then fade to black is going to end 900 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:51,839 and then i'm going to join dave with 901 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,400 nicole sakich over at uh spaced out 902 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,200 radio tonight that's crazy man 903 00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:59,680 it is but why not not enough people are 904 00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,599 doing this so why don't we just give it 905 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:03,520 a try and you you approached me about a 906 00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,960 week ago and said hey man what do you 907 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,720 think about this and i'm like sure what 908 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:09,760 the hell let's just do it just you know 909 00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,400 let's just ask for uh let's ask for 910 00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:15,359 problems yeah yeah it's live radio let's 911 00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,400 just go 912 00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,920 now um 913 00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:20,480 now i wanted to start out here 914 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,200 that um this this community of ours 915 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,880 loves drama 916 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,839 and 917 00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:28,960 they 918 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:34,079 schroeder on the show dave's one of my 919 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:35,359 close friends he's a good friend of 920 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,640 yours and uh we're the best of friends 921 00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,839 no drama 922 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:42,160 and and you have spaced out radio i've 923 00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,440 got fade to black uh we overlap uh each 924 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,880 night 925 00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,000 and things 926 00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,440 but uh people want us to not be friends 927 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:54,000 right why why do you think that is 928 00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:55,760 you know what i think because people 929 00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:56,560 just 930 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:00,320 are always looking for something to to 931 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,280 put their hat on and you know i'm kind 932 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,440 of the new guy in on the block compared 933 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,680 to you and dave schrader who i i 934 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:09,760 absolutely idolize in this field the 935 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,320 number with a number of other people jim 936 00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:14,640 and you know when i started my time slot 937 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:16,240 originally i was only two hours going 938 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,200 from 10 939 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,599 to midnight and then i extended it by an 940 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,520 hour because my audience kept growing 941 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,599 and wanted to do that but you know what 942 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:25,440 there's enough radio for anybody and 943 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,800 everybody you know a lot of your 944 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:29,440 audience will listen to my replays 945 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,280 either afterwards or or they'll come in 946 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:34,880 you know the next day and listen to the 947 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,760 podcast side of things on on i heart 948 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,320 radio or spotify or someplace like that 949 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,960 or on youtube and there's plenty of time 950 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,440 for all of us and and the one thing that 951 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,119 i think we need to 952 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,440 kind of band together with is we're all 953 00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:51,040 trying to provide professional 954 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,560 broadcasting in this field i mean 955 00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:56,880 there's a ton of great podcasters out 956 00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,839 there there's a ton of of high quality 957 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:01,760 people but there's not a lot of old 958 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:04,960 radio guys like you or me or or schrader 959 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:08,000 or anybody like that who are still 960 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,240 pushing the limits of what we need to do 961 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,320 on a nightly basis 962 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,320 and you know i've never tried to steal 963 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,920 your audience i've never tried to steal 964 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,640 dave's just trying to build my own and 965 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,640 you know some to some people they think 966 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,560 well that's got to be intention you got 967 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,720 to not like the next guy beside you no 968 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,880 man why why does it have to be that way 969 00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,440 right why why can't we just all 970 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,359 share and get along and you know some 971 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:33,040 people are going to listen to me some 972 00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,400 people are going to listen to dave some 973 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,000 people are going to listen to you and 974 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:38,160 and if it means hitting my podcast up on 975 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:39,440 the next day because they're live with 976 00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,400 you i am a okay with that well um i was 977 00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,240 okay with all of that until you started 978 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,880 hanging guitars in the background and so 979 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:49,040 i was like that's it i'm i'm i'm i'm 980 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,640 stealing every dave scott guest i and 981 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,200 and and audience member that i can 982 00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,599 yeah that's okay i'll give you uh the 983 00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,920 guitars i'll give you the the emails 984 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,240 that you need why not 985 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:04,079 you know what seriously though jim when 986 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,680 i came into this field in 2014 i left 987 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:09,680 terrestrial radio in vancouver and you 988 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:11,920 and i actually have a lot in common 989 00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,440 we're both sports uh broadcasters right 990 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,119 and you know what it's like when you 991 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,200 you're walking around the press box 992 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,040 getting the fresh food and the popcorn 993 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,880 and drinks and all that going into the 994 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,480 dressing rooms after the game and 995 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,640 getting your your five seven minutes 996 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,800 audio that you now have to cut up 997 00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:31,280 and you know i didn't know anything when 998 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,000 i came into this field at 14 man i knew 999 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:36,560 nobody the only person that i two people 1000 00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,680 i knew were obviously art bell and 1001 00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,319 george nori and 1002 00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:44,480 i was so unfamiliar when i left 1003 00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:47,119 terrestrial radio 107 i was so disgusted 1004 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,079 with it 1005 00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,000 you know with the lack of pay the lack 1006 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,560 of respect and everything that a number 1007 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:54,960 of us were getting at the radio stations 1008 00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,760 in vancouver where i worked and where my 1009 00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:59,760 friends worked that i just i turned it 1010 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:02,880 off i turned it off and i was you know 1011 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:05,760 strictly satellite radio from then on in 1012 00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,480 and a good friend of ours johnny enoch i 1013 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:09,839 had met him 1014 00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,160 in 2014 1015 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,560 and johnny's like dude we got to get you 1016 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,200 back on the radio and i was like 1017 00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,520 you just can't walk into a radio station 1018 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,359 man and say hey i'm gonna take that 1019 00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,440 nighttime slot give it to me i said 1020 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,599 that's not how it works he goes no 1021 00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:27,760 there's this online thing we started off 1022 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,400 on blog talk radio as horrific as that 1023 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,280 sounds now right 1024 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,760 and that's how we kind of started to do 1025 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,040 it and i figured you know what i'll go 1026 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:38,640 bigger i'll go home 1027 00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:41,920 and i knew nothing about yourself or 1028 00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,599 dave schrader or or the 10 000 other 1029 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,960 podcasts 1030 00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,800 that were out there i was extremely 1031 00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,880 naive and i think if i would have known 1032 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,319 i don't know if i would have been up to 1033 00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,599 the challenge 1034 00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,319 i really don't and i think that naivety 1035 00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,160 kind of helped build what we're doing 1036 00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,960 here but the guitars you ask about the 1037 00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,480 guitars in my studio 1038 00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:04,720 i i had never seen your studio with the 1039 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,240 guitars until after i had mine hung up 1040 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,720 and i'm just learning i wanted guitars 1041 00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,480 in my life my parents never let me play 1042 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:13,520 guitar 1043 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,760 i had you know my parents literally had 1044 00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,720 two 50s and a 70s and they've been stuck 1045 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,640 on that music ever since 1046 00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,720 so so 1047 00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,240 i don't know what the hell happened to 1048 00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:26,640 zeppelin and jimmy hendrix and all of 1049 00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,599 this in my house but at 39 years old i 1050 00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:31,280 got my first guitar 1051 00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:34,319 and i just i just fell in love with them 1052 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,079 ever since and my eight-year-old son is 1053 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:41,599 uh in guitar lessons he he's a little 1054 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:45,119 metal head and i just i absolutely love 1055 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,359 it i mean you know my kid walks around 1056 00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,839 singing panteras cowboys from hell 1057 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,160 around the house i'm okay with that i'm 1058 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:53,920 very much okay well that's a great album 1059 00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:54,560 if 1060 00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,480 into the dark side 1061 00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,400 that's the one right there if that's 1062 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:02,160 gonna get him playing guitar 1063 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:04,400 um i wanted to uh 1064 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,440 uh 1065 00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:07,920 to back up for a second because 1066 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:11,040 the sports thing between us is a very 1067 00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,040 interesting one 1068 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:15,920 and i used sports i knew that i was 1069 00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,960 going to what i wanted to do was do this 1070 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,440 show right you know go host coast to 1071 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,040 coast and whatever 1072 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,520 but i needed to get my foot in the door 1073 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:26,960 in radio 1074 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,079 right and so i used sports to do that i 1075 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,319 thought that would be the easiest way to 1076 00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:33,680 to get into it 1077 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,319 and once i was there then i would 1078 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,960 right do take the right hand turn 1079 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,200 and and do the paranormal and ufos and 1080 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:43,440 conspiracy what i'm doing now 1081 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:47,440 um did you have visions in sports 1082 00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:50,480 of eventually doing something like this 1083 00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:53,920 absolutely not my my whole goal was to 1084 00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,119 try and get a job at the nhl 1085 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,560 i wanted to 1086 00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,720 to either get into the coaching capacity 1087 00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:03,119 or at least the media capacity of that 1088 00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,240 scouting 1089 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:07,440 everything like that and in 2007 right 1090 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,119 before i left the radio business 1091 00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,240 i uh up in vancouver they had 1092 00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,720 the what we call the memorial cup which 1093 00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:19,119 is junior hockey's uh national 1094 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:22,079 championship very very big it's it's a 1095 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:25,040 for sick kids 16 to 20 years old who are 1096 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,240 going to be draft a lot of them are 1097 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:28,560 going to get drafted into the nhl and 1098 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,440 play and i actually had it lined up with 1099 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:33,599 the edmonton oilers uh 1100 00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,040 head scout at that time a gentleman 1101 00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,599 named stu mcgregor who 1102 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,280 i had actually 1103 00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,440 garnered enough steam 1104 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,319 to to approach him and i had known stu 1105 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,160 mcgregor through my dad through minor 1106 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,960 hockey since i was about 12 years old 1107 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,480 and i hadn't talked to him since i was 1108 00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,119 about 17. and so i walked up to him in 1109 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,839 the press box during the memorial cup 1110 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,839 and i'm like hey mr mcgregor i don't 1111 00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,000 know if you remember me or not 1112 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:02,880 and this is who i am and he goes what 1113 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,240 are you doing here what are you doing 1114 00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,560 now great to see you we shook hands and 1115 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,960 i'm like i'm only in media because i 1116 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,520 want to get a job at the nhl 1117 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:13,680 and the edmonton oilers are my number 1118 00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:16,880 one team since childhood and i would 1119 00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:20,079 love to break in as a as a what they 1120 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:22,640 call a bird dog scout the only thing i'm 1121 00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:25,839 asking for man is business cards 1122 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,079 that's it it's all i want 1123 00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:31,280 and he was like he's like call me 1124 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:33,520 he goes let's set something up 1125 00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:34,319 and 1126 00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,839 literally 1127 00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:37,920 i worked for this mega i mean you know 1128 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:41,440 the maniacal management of radio of 1129 00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,880 certain people the egos are horrible 1130 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,359 and i worked for one of those men who 1131 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,000 absolutely destroyed 1132 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,560 any love i had for radio 1133 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,880 and i knew it was time to get out 1134 00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:57,599 and at that time i was i was separated 1135 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,319 from 1136 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:01,440 my wife at the time and and i figured 1137 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,480 you know what 1138 00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,800 i want to get my family back i want to 1139 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,000 just move on let's let's do it all right 1140 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:10,560 and i literally quit radio because of 1141 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,520 this dude started a new job in in the 1142 00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,480 financing field after that and two days 1143 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,119 later i find out my ex-wife has a 1144 00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:21,040 boyfriend 1145 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,119 and i'm like i'm done 1146 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,760 i'm done like i just i got so depressed 1147 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,160 i didn't even pick up the phone to call 1148 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,960 the edmonton oilers back 1149 00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:32,240 wow 1150 00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:35,480 now what what what year was this 1151 00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,160 2007. okay because in 2011 you start um 1152 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:44,960 spaced out radio in 2014. 1153 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:48,880 um in in 2011 1154 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,680 um you had your for i i guess you would 1155 00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:54,240 call it a paranormal experience 1156 00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,560 yeah um uh with uh contact with 1157 00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:01,359 what you have called the angel of death 1158 00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,400 now 1159 00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,119 ed tell tell me about that what what are 1160 00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,280 we talking about here what happened 1161 00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:09,440 well it was the weirdest thing because 1162 00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560 my partner she is very was very much 1163 00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:14,319 into the woo back then you know she 1164 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,119 would go to her her little uh meditation 1165 00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,200 meetings with all the friends and you 1166 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,440 know i'd make fun of that because you 1167 00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,440 know i'm a sports guy man we don't do 1168 00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:25,920 that kind of stuff and 1169 00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:28,559 and but she was all into it 1170 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,960 and at our house it was december 13 2011 1171 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:35,440 at about 7 45 p.m 1172 00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,760 and we had had a a early christmas for 1173 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,760 my daughter because my daughter was 1174 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,319 going away with her mom's gran her mom's 1175 00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,640 parents over christmas and new year's 1176 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,720 and my parents i figured you know what 1177 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,640 i'll bring my parents over my sisters or 1178 00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,880 cousins we'll give her a nice christmas 1179 00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,559 where she could open up all her gifts 1180 00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,720 beforehand instead of waiting until 1181 00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:58,240 after the new year when we got to see 1182 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,760 her again so my parents come over and 1183 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:03,760 there's a canucks game on tv they're 1184 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,680 playing san jose and at about 7 45 1185 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,760 old david phil my parents they they 1186 00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,240 decide they're gonna take off and and 1187 00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,400 leave because you know i mean dancing 1188 00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,559 with the stars literally this is true 1189 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,319 dancing with the stars was more 1190 00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,920 important at the top of the hour to get 1191 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,000 home to than to spend time with the 1192 00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,160 family right and 1193 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,720 you know i mean how can you argue that i 1194 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,400 mean it's dancing with the stars right 1195 00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:31,040 as i roll my eyes saying that 1196 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:32,400 and 1197 00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:37,040 i'm i'm kind of pissed off that my 1198 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,480 parents are leaving 1199 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,880 and i'm going to the dining room in the 1200 00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,480 living room and i'm cleaning up plates 1201 00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,240 and drinking glasses bringing them into 1202 00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,920 the kitchen to help put them in the 1203 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,400 dishwasher and my mom is in the kitchen 1204 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,240 and i figure okay i'll go give my mom a 1205 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,920 hug and there's a doorway in between my 1206 00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:56,400 kitchen and my dining room and dude my 1207 00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,960 mom is right there i go to step into the 1208 00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:01,200 doorway i have my arms open to give my 1209 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,559 mom a hug 1210 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,440 and all of a sudden everything around me 1211 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,720 has stopped 1212 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,720 there's no sound of the canucks game on 1213 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,280 television there's like 18 people in 1214 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,520 that room man and not a single one of 1215 00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:15,839 them is making noise and my mom looks at 1216 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,000 me and my mom's got these beautiful blue 1217 00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:21,760 eyes man and her eyes are jet black 1218 00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:24,800 and her pupils are white 1219 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:28,480 and i kind of turn my head like what the 1220 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,280 heck is this and my mom kind of gets 1221 00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:33,599 this looked shocked look on her face 1222 00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,640 she's kind of like oh you see me 1223 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,200 and immediately man i got sick to my 1224 00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:41,920 stomach and i wanted to cry because i 1225 00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,319 knew i was looking into the eyes of the 1226 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,079 angel of death 1227 00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,720 and i don't ask me how i don't know how 1228 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:50,000 i just 1229 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,040 knew 1230 00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,240 and i gave my mama my mom shook her head 1231 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,000 all of a sudden the sound is back on the 1232 00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,160 television people are talking in the 1233 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,559 room my mom comes in gives me a hug her 1234 00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,160 eyes are back to blue 1235 00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:04,160 and she walks to the doorway like 1236 00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,520 nothing happened 1237 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,839 this all in about a span of about four 1238 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:08,960 seconds 1239 00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:11,920 i take off to my bedroom my partner 1240 00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,240 comes down and she goes are you okay i'm 1241 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:15,839 like i just saw the angel the death of 1242 00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,359 my mother's eyes and i'm i'm gonna cry 1243 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,280 and 1244 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,800 she goes well gather your thoughts we 1245 00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,720 still got people here go to the door 1246 00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,480 wish your parents goodnight so i you 1247 00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:28,880 know i manned up i went and did that 1248 00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,280 and you know walk back into the house we 1249 00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:33,680 have other company and you know the 1250 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,319 night went on and i just i was just kind 1251 00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:37,680 of out of it for the rest of the night 1252 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:40,319 so at about ten ten o'clock everybody 1253 00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,920 left and we're cleaning up 1254 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,920 my daughter is in bed my step-daughter 1255 00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:45,200 is in bed 1256 00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:46,319 and 1257 00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:49,119 my partner takes me into the living room 1258 00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:51,760 and we've got two couches with a table 1259 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,400 set up in between with with a candle 1260 00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:55,920 going because now she's gonna perform 1261 00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,960 some woo 1262 00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:58,800 right there you know and i'm like she's 1263 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:01,839 like just sit down relax and tell me 1264 00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,640 what happened tell me what you saw so i 1265 00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:06,839 sit back i close my eyes i start 1266 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,800 reacting and next thing i know dude 1267 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,160 god is my witness a lot of your 1268 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,400 listeners may not believe me but that's 1269 00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,640 fine i actually started channeling the 1270 00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:18,640 angel of death 1271 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,400 and he told me that my mother was 1272 00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,920 truly sick 1273 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,400 she had battled cancer twice 1274 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:28,800 and that she was not doing well 1275 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:32,800 and he basically said next that if you 1276 00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:36,960 as a family decide not to treat her with 1277 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:40,079 more love and more respect that he was 1278 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:41,680 gonna take her home 1279 00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:44,800 he didn't say heaven he didn't say hell 1280 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:47,760 the only thing he said was take her home 1281 00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,359 and i was like okay how do i do that 1282 00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,920 and he told me start calling your family 1283 00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,160 and tell them to start phoning your mom 1284 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,319 more hanging out with mom more and 1285 00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,400 everything and i followed that man i 1286 00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:02,000 followed it to a t 1287 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,280 called my aunts my uncles my sisters and 1288 00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:07,520 everybody believed me 1289 00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:09,440 holy crap dave 1290 00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,440 yeah holy crap that and uh 1291 00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,800 and uh we're gonna stay right here 1292 00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,119 you said earlier you know you know in 1293 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,119 the sports world right in the 1294 00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,160 professional broadcasting world you know 1295 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,960 this isn't this isn't what we do 1296 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,400 and now 1297 00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:30,720 you you've seriously jumped into the 1298 00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:33,440 deep end of the pool yeah where was 1299 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:36,079 where was your mind at with with with 1300 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:37,839 all of this 1301 00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,079 at that time it was like what the hell 1302 00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,040 is happening right what what is going on 1303 00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,520 like why is this happening you know all 1304 00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,160 of a sudden within a day or two man my 1305 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,440 kids are seeing ghosts in my house 1306 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:53,680 like ever all everything paranormal it 1307 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:57,040 was like the light switch turned on 1308 00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,800 and everything started happening and 1309 00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,559 we started get over a couple weeks we 1310 00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,559 started getting weirded out because 1311 00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,480 there was all this paranormal stuff now 1312 00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,319 happening like you would hear literally 1313 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,839 we'd be sitting right 1314 00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,920 watching television in our recliners and 1315 00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,520 right beside us it's the stairway to go 1316 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,200 down in the basement and you would hear 1317 00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:17,280 footsteps like 1318 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:18,800 going downstairs 1319 00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,520 you know that never happened before 1320 00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:23,599 and all of a sudden everything started 1321 00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:26,559 happening and we were lucky because 1322 00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:29,440 because of my partner working on her 1323 00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,640 meditation and what i thought was all bs 1324 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,240 at the time right 1325 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,480 she was working with this gentleman 1326 00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,400 named pascal 1327 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,079 and so one day 1328 00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,200 she decides it's time to get pascal 1329 00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:45,440 involved with old davey here because i 1330 00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,280 didn't know what the hell was happening 1331 00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,359 so pascal comes to the i go to one of 1332 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,440 these meditation things and meet him and 1333 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:54,240 he's a giant of a man he's like six foot 1334 00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,800 three six four about 330 pounds and 1335 00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,800 jimmy his hands are about the size of 1336 00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:02,400 the sasquatches 1337 00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:03,760 and 1338 00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:15,200 an offensive lineman in football right 1339 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:16,160 right 1340 00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:17,119 and 1341 00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:22,880 over for a tea because he doesn't drink 1342 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,440 coffee it was tea and he comes over and 1343 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,880 he goes you and i are going to go for a 1344 00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,240 little drive 1345 00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:30,319 and i said where are we going he goes 1346 00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,559 wherever we end up 1347 00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:33,520 and 1348 00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,079 i didn't feel comfortable doing that but 1349 00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:38,960 i got in the car anyways and we get 1350 00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,319 about 1351 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:43,280 i don't know two miles from my house 1352 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:45,280 and he says to me how far down the 1353 00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,880 rabbit hole do you want to go 1354 00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:50,880 and i said well i'm having all this 1355 00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:54,319 stuff going on let's just do it 1356 00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:56,480 and that's where it all began 1357 00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,000 and that's where all these weird 1358 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,400 experiences started coming 1359 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:02,000 let me ask you that do you still live in 1360 00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:03,280 the same house 1361 00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:04,240 no 1362 00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:12,319 columbia i'm in the middle of the 1363 00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:14,960 mountains now because i i'm asking 1364 00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:18,400 because uh you you had posted i think 1365 00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:20,079 was last year a couple of years ago it 1366 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,599 just cracked me up 1367 00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,520 bears in the trees 1368 00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,599 right yeah at your house so i was 1369 00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,920 wondering if that was the same house 1370 00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,079 no no but yeah we got a lot of bears 1371 00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:32,160 around here funny story my my 1372 00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,240 eight-year-old was uh outside at some in 1373 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,319 in late in the summer and he's sitting 1374 00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,079 on the patio because our house is in a 1375 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,240 cul-de-sac and his buddies live two 1376 00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,240 doors down and one's kitty corner right 1377 00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:46,319 across the street from us and he's 1378 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,680 sitting there waiting for his buddies to 1379 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,760 come out after dinner all of a sudden he 1380 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,359 opens the door and he's like he's 1381 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:54,319 panting bear bear bear i'm like what 1382 00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:57,680 happened son and and so he's like daddy 1383 00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,240 i was sitting on the patio man and all 1384 00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:02,400 of a sudden i see this deer running down 1385 00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,599 the street and i was like that's weird 1386 00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,960 and then all of a sudden there was a 1387 00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,200 bear chasing the deer right down the 1388 00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:11,119 middle of the street and i was scared 1389 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,799 the bear was gonna turn in and come see 1390 00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:15,440 me so i ran in the house and i'm like oh 1391 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,160 man so i you know being a stupid 1392 00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:20,640 lumberjack canadian i said well let's go 1393 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:21,920 find the bear 1394 00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:24,000 and you know we walk into where the bear 1395 00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,359 ran into the forest at the end of the 1396 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,359 cul-de-sac and you know 1397 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,680 first tree we we go on in and we're on 1398 00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,920 alert and just my boy and i and you know 1399 00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,440 about 40 feet up there's the bear 1400 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:35,599 standing in the tree you know it's kind 1401 00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:38,319 of cool i couldn't it was so funny uh 1402 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:40,160 before we head to the break 1403 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,520 um so dave posts this video i forget my 1404 00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,319 comment uh on it but he's like there's 1405 00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,400 my house 1406 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,240 there's the tree 1407 00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,480 there's the bear i'm like holy crap and 1408 00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,720 then then he posted another video you 1409 00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,319 were in your car 1410 00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,240 right and you pulled up you rolled down 1411 00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,480 the window and this bear just crawls up 1412 00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,240 into the tree 1413 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:03,680 right yeah 1414 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,599 and i and i i forget my comment but uh 1415 00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:10,160 but uh it was a holy crap comment it was 1416 00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,119 like oh man really 1417 00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,599 oh yeah it was awesome you know that's 1418 00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,760 yearly yearly man 1419 00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:19,839 all i have in the desert are like baby 1420 00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,559 lizards you know i i don't have much out 1421 00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,720 here we need to take a break we've got a 1422 00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,880 busy night tonight so i'm going to let 1423 00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:28,720 everybody know what's cracking 1424 00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:30,319 all right dave's going to be on with us 1425 00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,680 for the next hour 1426 00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:34,079 and then we're going to go into a 1427 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,599 simulcast 1428 00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:37,760 and then we're going to be doing both 1429 00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,680 shows at the same time then we'll wrap 1430 00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:41,760 fade to black and then i'm going to be 1431 00:57:47,470 --> 00:57:44,799 over on dave's show uh later on tonight 1432 00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:47,480 so we've got a busy night and uh a 1433 00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:51,040 guaranteed technical snafu will happen 1434 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:53,359 at least once this is fade to black i'm 1435 00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:55,040 real jimmy church tonight for the first 1436 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,720 time dave scott of spaced out radio on 1437 00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,520 the k-u-n-x and game changer networks 1438 00:58:05,109 --> 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1495 01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:06,400 you're listening to this you have an 1496 01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:08,720 interest in unexplained phenomena like 1497 01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,079 ghosts bigfoot and ufos and by now you 1498 01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:14,400 know that we have our own ex-blog the 1499 01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:17,520 next newsletter and the unex magazine 1500 01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,359 quarterly but most of you don't know 1501 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,280 that we have started our very own 1502 01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,440 paranormal conference and this year for 1503 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,760 safety this two-day ex-con will be 1504 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:27,680 virtual so you can attend from the 1505 01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:29,920 comfort of your home ex-con presenters 1506 01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,160 include whitley strieber micah hanks 1507 01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:34,720 margie k and preston dennett lisa martin 1508 01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:37,119 and wayne lawrence lee spiegel debbie 1509 01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,400 zagelmeyer dan terry kate grabowski and 1510 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,440 ray hernandez there will also be a live 1511 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,119 paranormal investigation by the 1512 01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:47,760 riverside iowa paranormal team so come 1513 01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:50,079 hang out with us in the safety of home 1514 01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:53,119 as we set out to explain the unexplained 1515 01:02:00,349 --> 01:01:56,559 friday may 13th and saturday the 14th 1516 01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:00,359 2022 and tickets are on sale now go to 1517 01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:15,990 hi this is ray sobs here repping the 1518 01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:17,920 planet and you're listening to my good 1519 01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,480 friend jimmy church fade to black 1520 01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:24,640 this is toby kebble you're listening to 1521 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:26,720 jimmychurchradio.com 1522 01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:29,760 don't hurt me jimmy i'm only little hey 1523 01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:32,000 i'm adrian grenier and this is ari gold 1524 01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,589 hey i'm adrian grenier and i'm ari gold 1525 01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:41,280 we're the honey brothers 1526 01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:43,520 and you're listening to jimmy church a 1527 01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:45,039 revolution 1528 01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,720 this is jimmy church of fade to black 1529 01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:48,720 and you can become an official fate or 1530 01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:51,039 not by just going to our membership 1531 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:57,349 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1532 01:03:01,990 --> 01:02:59,680 conscious life expo and you're listening 1533 01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,000 to fade to black with jimmy church who 1534 01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:04,400 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1535 01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:08,000 astrological chart since 1963. true 1536 01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,839 story 1537 01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:11,520 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1538 01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:13,119 report and you're listening to jimmy 1539 01:03:19,070 --> 01:03:15,110 church on fade to black 1540 01:03:19,390 --> 01:03:19,080 [Music] 1541 01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:19,400 [Applause] 1542 01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,200 [Music] 1543 01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,359 all right welcome back fade to black i 1544 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:38,880 am your host jimmy church tonight dave 1545 01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,200 scott is with us three 1546 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,599 three first-time guests this week 1547 01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,440 tonight dave scott spaced out radio 1548 01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:47,680 tomorrow night tom dango and wednesday 1549 01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,960 night jazz shaw is with us 1550 01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,280 and uh we've got a busy night tonight in 1551 01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:56,160 in front of us dave and uh i have no 1552 01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:57,359 idea 1553 01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:58,880 uh when i'm 1554 01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:01,039 gonna have dinner now at this point i 1555 01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:02,480 guess it'll be about two o'clock in the 1556 01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:05,520 morning um i want to get back to 1557 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,280 uh pascal 1558 01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:09,520 um that that's a pretty fascinating 1559 01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:12,400 story and when somebody says how deep 1560 01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:14,559 down the rabbit hole do you want to go 1561 01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,319 and you're like 1562 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,079 let's do this 1563 01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,920 what happened next how far down the 1564 01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,839 rabbit hole did you go 1565 01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:23,839 well for about a year and a half man i 1566 01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:26,880 worked with him at least once every two 1567 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,680 weeks and we'd go for these drives and 1568 01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,280 dude we'd go in the middle of the night 1569 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,200 like start at like 11 o'clock we 1570 01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:34,960 wouldn't end them until like two three 1571 01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,039 in the morning and i still had to work 1572 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,839 the next day and you know could try and 1573 01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:41,920 live a life but 1574 01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:44,720 everything that i wanted to see man 1575 01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,359 started coming out uh you know i started 1576 01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:49,359 off with just paranormal stuff where we 1577 01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:51,839 worked on because of the angel of death 1578 01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:53,920 with my eyes or with my mom in the 1579 01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:55,039 channeling 1580 01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,000 aspect of everything and we ended up 1581 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:02,960 meeting you know a number of nice people 1582 01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,079 regarding that and then you know we'd go 1583 01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:08,799 for these drives and you'd see shadows 1584 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,480 standing in the middle of the road and 1585 01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,480 all of a sudden they would dash off 1586 01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:14,960 and be like did you see that and he'd be 1587 01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:16,799 like see what well there was a shadow 1588 01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:19,760 going on he'd be like good good you know 1589 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:22,559 you're opening up to what we need you to 1590 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:26,640 to see and and and be there and and 1591 01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:29,440 then all of a sudden out of the blue man 1592 01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,720 it was 2013 1593 01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:34,319 and he starts saying 1594 01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:35,680 dave 1595 01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:38,799 we need to start talking about et's 1596 01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:40,079 and i'm like 1597 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:42,079 no man no 1598 01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:45,440 not at all not going there and i said i 1599 01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:48,480 saw travis walton's 1600 01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,720 fire in the sky i know what happens i 1601 01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,799 said i'm good with the ghosts man i'll 1602 01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,400 i'll do anything with the ghost he goes 1603 01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,200 well my guides keep telling me that it's 1604 01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,440 time to open you up to et's 1605 01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,079 and i'm like no no not going there and i 1606 01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:04,319 fought it and i fought it and he'd be 1607 01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:05,920 like well what if you don't have a 1608 01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,520 choice and i'm like well what's all this 1609 01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,359 free will crap you've been telling me 1610 01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,280 about you know where's my free will i 1611 01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,520 don't want any aliens he goes well you 1612 01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:15,280 may not have a choice 1613 01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:16,839 so okay 1614 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:20,559 fine 2014 hits about 1615 01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,000 you know what we're right around that 1616 01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:24,799 timeline right tonight 1617 01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:28,000 and i went to bed and i had this dream 1618 01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:29,839 i'm gonna call it a dream because i 1619 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:32,799 don't know what else it was jim and all 1620 01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:34,000 of a sudden in the middle of the night 1621 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:36,559 man i'm in i'm 1622 01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,160 sleeping and 1623 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:40,079 i wake up and i'm in this bright white 1624 01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,119 room 1625 01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:43,200 and there i know there's walls and i 1626 01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:50,390 this voice 1627 01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,039 comes all around me this male voice and 1628 01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,440 says dave we do not want you to be 1629 01:06:59,910 --> 01:06:58,079 investigating anymore stop watching 1630 01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,920 television's show stop listening to 1631 01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,000 radio programs stop watching 1632 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,480 documentaries stop looking up everything 1633 01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,240 i said look man i'm just trying to 1634 01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:08,160 figure out what is going on 1635 01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,520 here and they said 1636 01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,280 and it was weird this is what screwed me 1637 01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:13,599 up it said we give you permission to 1638 01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:15,599 watch youtube videos 1639 01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,640 what 1640 01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,680 yeah and i'm like youtube videos i said 1641 01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,039 i'm just trying to figure out what the 1642 01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:23,119 heck is going on with me here and then 1643 01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,119 this voice says 1644 01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,359 you'll be able to tell what is real and 1645 01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:29,039 what is fake 1646 01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,799 i'm like okay 1647 01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,680 this is what the hell does this mean now 1648 01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:34,960 right 1649 01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:37,440 three weeks later april 10th 1650 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,880 2014 1651 01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:40,480 i'm over at my friend's place and 1652 01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:43,440 they've got this this 10 acre parcel of 1653 01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,400 land 1654 01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:47,280 on on this private road there's only 1655 01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:50,000 them and their neighbors which have 1656 01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:51,599 their the neighbors are in their late 1657 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,559 60s and they have this little trailer on 1658 01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:56,640 this six and a half acre piece of land 1659 01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:58,799 and both pieces of land are horseshoed 1660 01:08:01,349 --> 01:08:00,079 by forest 1661 01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:01,359 way up in the mountains of mission 1662 01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:03,039 british columbia 1663 01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,880 and i 1664 01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:07,119 we would go over there and we had some 1665 01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:09,359 weird stuff happen there jim like that's 1666 01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,480 an entirely different three-hour show 1667 01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:14,720 of the crap that was happening there it 1668 01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:18,080 was like a mini e city ranch gotcha 1669 01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:19,679 and 1670 01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,319 i'm i'm driving there my partner has our 1671 01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:26,480 little guy who's about eight months old 1672 01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,120 at this time and she just arrived there 1673 01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,960 over for tea i said i'll meet you after 1674 01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:33,279 work i got off work at eight o'clock and 1675 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:35,839 i you know i worked 40 minutes out of 1676 01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,080 town i race over there and as i'm going 1677 01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:40,719 there i got this splitting migraine 1678 01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,000 and i pull into the driveway and i walk 1679 01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:46,000 in and and the lights are on and i'm 1680 01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:49,120 just like oh my head is killing me so 1681 01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,799 my partner says do you do you want to go 1682 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:52,400 do you want to leave if you got this 1683 01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:54,719 migraine i'm like no you just got here 1684 01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,560 maybe it'll subside just let me sit on 1685 01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,319 the couch close my eyes 1686 01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,799 and this is where i realized jim that it 1687 01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,560 wasn't 1688 01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,480 pain that i was feeling 1689 01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,359 it was shapes on my head 1690 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,440 coming through his pain it started as a 1691 01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,839 as a square in the front of my head went 1692 01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,839 to a triangle on the right side of my 1693 01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:16,000 head and then a circle 1694 01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:17,759 and then about half an hour later we're 1695 01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,000 hitting about 10 o'clock this time 1696 01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,080 everything disappeared and i got hit 1697 01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,480 with an anxiety attack that i needed to 1698 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:26,799 go into their back field like 1699 01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:29,440 immediately like let's go let's go i'm 1700 01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:31,520 getting my shoes on let's go and my 1701 01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:34,080 partner says can i come with you and she 1702 01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:36,159 goes i said to her no you got to stay in 1703 01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,440 here with the boy 1704 01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,839 and then the lady of the house who is 1705 01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,480 very intuitive she says to her fiance 1706 01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:44,560 who's owned this property for like 41 1707 01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,480 years at this point they don't own it 1708 01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,400 anymore 1709 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,719 but she says dave is getting something 1710 01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:52,880 we need to go outside i looked at her 1711 01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,239 and i said he's not invited 1712 01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:58,000 why the hell would i tell him that he's 1713 01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:01,199 not invited into his back field 1714 01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,920 so her and i being connected we go 1715 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,679 outside the front door we walk to the 1716 01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,159 back and you know in british columbia 1717 01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:10,159 being a natural rainforest up in this 1718 01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:13,280 area we get a lot of misty rainy nights 1719 01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,440 where that mist just kind of hits you 1720 01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,199 and sinks into your clothes and 1721 01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:20,159 everything and the cloud level was maybe 1722 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,679 a 100 feet high 200 feet high like real 1723 01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,440 low on top of the mountain 1724 01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,360 and we walked to the back of the house 1725 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:29,440 where they got this old 1726 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:32,560 two by ten horse fence that they used to 1727 01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:35,360 raise horses on the farm and we're 1728 01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,719 standing there 1729 01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:38,719 and we're like this something feels off 1730 01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,679 here something feels completely off she 1731 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,679 goes well they called you outside talked 1732 01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:45,520 to them i said what the hell am i 1733 01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,120 supposed to say 1734 01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,040 and she goes i don't know first thing 1735 01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:51,199 that comes to your mind so i said okay 1736 01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:54,000 i'm a god guy so i said i said you know 1737 01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:55,840 out of peace love and light of god you 1738 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,640 called me outside can you please show us 1739 01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:00,320 where you are 1740 01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:03,679 and within two seconds jim the back 1741 01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:06,880 field of the neighbor's property 1742 01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,239 lit up like a christmas tree what 1743 01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:13,120 yeah so we're about 150 yards away from 1744 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,400 this man and the backyard lit up like a 1745 01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:18,719 christmas tree right by the forest and 1746 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:21,440 there was this bright white light the 1747 01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:23,840 brightest white light i've ever seen 1748 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:25,360 streaming through the trees and there 1749 01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,760 was a line of trees about 60 70 feet 1750 01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:30,080 tall in between both properties on the 1751 01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,199 fence line 1752 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,920 and this light is moving all the way 1753 01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:35,760 through 1754 01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:38,480 and after about 30 seconds the light 1755 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,360 goes off so i'm trying to be skeptical 1756 01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:43,679 here i'm thinking okay in this light am 1757 01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:46,159 i seeing people move do i hear people 1758 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,000 laughing you know is it one of those 1759 01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,320 hundred thousand candle wat flashlights 1760 01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:52,640 that you get at the hardware store what 1761 01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,560 could it be 1762 01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,560 so then she says 1763 01:12:03,030 --> 01:11:59,760 holy cow do it again so i said 1764 01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:03,040 if you are of alien descent out of god's 1765 01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:04,800 peace love and light can you turn your 1766 01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:06,560 lights back on 1767 01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:09,679 bang white back on again 1768 01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:12,640 now i'm talking to this thing in the 1769 01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,320 same volume that i am talking to you and 1770 01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:18,239 your audience 1771 01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:22,400 okay there is no way 150 yards away that 1772 01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,239 whoever is standing there can hear me 1773 01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,800 okay but the lights come back on and 1774 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,800 they're wider through the trees and 1775 01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:32,800 they're brighter and this is where all 1776 01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,400 the sudden i see 1777 01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,400 something blue 1778 01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:38,719 and there is this 1779 01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,360 i move to my right about 15 20 feet to 1780 01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:43,199 try and get a path through this because 1781 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:45,120 i see this blue thing 1782 01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,239 and there 1783 01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,560 is this blue cylinder 1784 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,440 standing vertically on the ground 1785 01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,520 about 20 30 feet high because remember 1786 01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:56,000 the trees in between are about 60 70 1787 01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:57,280 feet 1788 01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,960 and 1789 01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,199 at the bottom of this blue cylinder 1790 01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,760 there is this black cloud that is 1791 01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,000 rotating counterclockwise 1792 01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,000 and it would make its way halfway up 1793 01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:10,880 this cylinder and halfway down 1794 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:13,520 and all of the white light is still 1795 01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:16,080 there and it is emanating from the 1796 01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,080 bottom of this this cylinder i don't 1797 01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:22,080 know what else to call it and i'm like 1798 01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,719 you gotta be can you believe this crap 1799 01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,320 going on right now 1800 01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,199 and my friends like let's go over to it 1801 01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,880 i'm like no way 1802 01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,640 we are not going over there she's like 1803 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,640 well i'm going i'm like i'm not going 1804 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,480 back into your house 1805 01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:39,199 alone i'm suspect number one 1806 01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:41,199 you know right 1807 01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,600 you are staying right here with me we 1808 01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:46,000 don't know what this is i saw fire in 1809 01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:49,040 the sky and we're not doing this 1810 01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,480 all right 1811 01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:52,640 so she's staying with me 30 seconds 1812 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:55,280 later the lights go off she go so now we 1813 01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,520 have this argument and she goes okay 1814 01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:59,280 fine see if they'll come on one more 1815 01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:01,920 time so i said just so i know i'm not 1816 01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,239 crazy out of god's peace love of light 1817 01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:07,040 can you turn your lights on one final 1818 01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:08,080 time 1819 01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:11,360 bang the lights come back on again 1820 01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:14,719 and i'm just stunned here absolutely 1821 01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,679 stunned 1822 01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,159 and i'm staring at this i could see the 1823 01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,719 blue cylinder and then after about 30 1824 01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,400 seconds man 1825 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:25,040 it starts turning its lights off 1826 01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:26,080 and on 1827 01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,640 this ten times 1828 01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,719 now what i could figure from this and i 1829 01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,159 could be wrong 1830 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:36,560 but i used to go outside my partner and 1831 01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,440 i would go outside sit on our patio put 1832 01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,120 the lounge chairs out we'd count 1833 01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,120 satellites and you know everybody would 1834 01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,199 think you get those iridium satellites 1835 01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,520 that blow up the bright white light and 1836 01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,199 then they're gone 1837 01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:52,080 i have a feeling and it's just me 1838 01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:53,840 that these lights when they were turning 1839 01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:56,080 them on and off we're literally saying 1840 01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:57,679 hey remember when you're looking up in 1841 01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:01,120 the sky and you see those lights all of 1842 01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:04,640 a sudden flare up and then disappear 1843 01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:07,600 and i think that's what the message was 1844 01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:10,719 so i don't sleep for five days jim 1845 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:12,480 and this is where it gets really weird 1846 01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:15,840 oh it gets weirder okay continue 1847 01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,920 five days later it's a wednesday april 1848 01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:19,040 15th 1849 01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:21,199 at about 1 30 in the afternoon we i 1850 01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,199 haven't really slept in five days i got 1851 01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:24,719 the day off work 1852 01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,000 and 1853 01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,239 we got invited over to meet this young 1854 01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:31,440 lady named samantha moet 1855 01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,960 and samantha claims to be a lifelong et 1856 01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,719 contactee 1857 01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,400 and so we pull in 1858 01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:40,719 and we do the greetings and it's just 1859 01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:41,520 the 1860 01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:44,960 house 1861 01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:47,199 and my little guy who's still in a car 1862 01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:48,159 seat 1863 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,600 and 1864 01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:51,280 i'm kind of pacing around i don't even 1865 01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,120 want to be there i want to be outside 1866 01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,800 this is my first time back at the farm 1867 01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:56,320 since this happened 1868 01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,360 and 1869 01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:59,040 samantha all the sudden looks at me she 1870 01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,239 goes 1871 01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,400 you want to go outside don't you 1872 01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,320 i said yeah we had some things happen 1873 01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:05,920 here the other day so we kind of 1874 01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:08,239 explained she goes well do you mind if i 1875 01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,679 go out with you 1876 01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:11,679 i said sure it's two o'clock in the 1877 01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:12,960 afternoon 1878 01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:15,840 all of the kids are still at school 1879 01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,080 and her and i walk into the back field 1880 01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:21,040 it's a nice beautiful spring day and 1881 01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:23,199 there's not a cloud in the sky and i was 1882 01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:24,719 showing her in daylight where this 1883 01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:27,760 cylinder was and everything where the 1884 01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:29,679 energy was and she starts picking this 1885 01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,159 up and we got four dogs running around 1886 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,480 there was two dogs on the farm my two 1887 01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,080 dogs i would bring there to run around 1888 01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:37,760 10 acres why not let them get some 1889 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:40,320 exercise and all of a sudden samantha 1890 01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:43,840 gets close to me and she's like hey dave 1891 01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,719 do you want to go in the back forest 1892 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,280 and i'm like 1893 01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,280 sure 1894 01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,679 and she goes 1895 01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:55,199 you know we're probably going to see 1896 01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:56,800 something right 1897 01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:59,760 and i knew right there jim i knew and 1898 01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,440 i'm like what the hell after what 1899 01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:03,199 happened the other night let's just do 1900 01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,360 it well it's daylight you know what 1901 01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:07,199 what's the worst that can happen 1902 01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:09,840 absolutely so then samantha says 1903 01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:12,000 something weird she goes but i don't 1904 01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,760 know if there will be anything there 1905 01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:15,679 because from what i know aliens don't 1906 01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,159 like dogs 1907 01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:20,800 so we tried to shoo the dogs back to the 1908 01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:23,520 house they kept on following us so well 1909 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:25,840 let's try it the dogs take off back 1910 01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:28,080 towards the fence line in between the 1911 01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:29,520 tree lines 1912 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,000 and they run into the forest we get to 1913 01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,400 the gates we see the dogs running around 1914 01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:36,560 okay nothing her and i are having small 1915 01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,120 talk we get about 50 feet into the 1916 01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:41,360 forest or about 50 yards into the forest 1917 01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,120 and samantha stops and she's got this 1918 01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:45,120 perplexed look on her face 1919 01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:46,560 and she's looking around and i'm like 1920 01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:50,159 what's the matter and she goes uh dave 1921 01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:52,880 where are the dogs 1922 01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:55,520 all four dogs were gone 1923 01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,719 disappeared don't know where they went 1924 01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:01,040 all right so we're like you know stupid 1925 01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:03,280 people well let's keep going haha four 1926 01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:05,600 dogs just disappeared let's just keep 1927 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:06,480 going 1928 01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:09,280 so we walk another 50 yards in jim and 1929 01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:11,920 samantha's very pixie like she is very 1930 01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:14,719 petite very tiny and she hops up on this 1931 01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:17,280 tree stump and she looks north and she 1932 01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,800 kind of looks at me she looks north 1933 01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:21,280 again and she goes dave i want you to 1934 01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:23,840 look at me so i look at her and i'm a 1935 01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:26,800 foot and a half away from her she goes 1936 01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:28,640 i don't want you to be afraid but i want 1937 01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:30,640 you to look that way and she points 1938 01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:31,600 north 1939 01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,159 and i want you to tell me what you see 1940 01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:36,480 so i'm scared now jim i'm actually 1941 01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:37,840 starting to shake and i take a deep 1942 01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:40,480 breath i turn i looked north and i said 1943 01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,280 samantha what is that 1944 01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:46,080 samantha what the hell is that and 1945 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:47,679 that's all i could say for about three 1946 01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:49,920 minutes because at two o'clock in the 1947 01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:52,239 afternoon just her and i in the forest 1948 01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:54,960 no dogs around 200 feet right in front 1949 01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,199 of us there is a 10 to 12 foot 1950 01:19:02,550 --> 01:18:59,920 extraterrestrial standing there staring 1951 01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,560 back at us 1952 01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:04,560 continue when you say 1953 01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:11,669 it is 1954 01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:13,280 a very light 1955 01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:15,440 tan color like if you put too much cream 1956 01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:17,600 in coffee okay 1957 01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:20,000 i did not see the arms i did not see the 1958 01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,120 legs 1959 01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:23,840 saw the body which was very thin like 1960 01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:27,600 almost like telephone pole type thin 1961 01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:30,000 it had a giant bulbous head 1962 01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:31,120 on it 1963 01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,480 um 1964 01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:35,280 looking at it now in my mind 1965 01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:37,760 i don't recall seeing eyes 1966 01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,400 i just i'm staring at this thing 1967 01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,800 and as the sun is shining through the 1968 01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:44,800 trees 1969 01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:47,520 it it's starting to get darker not not 1970 01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,239 the daytime but the tan color starts 1971 01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:52,159 turning almost like to the brown of a 1972 01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,320 quarter horse or a giraffe 1973 01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:56,400 something of that darkness 1974 01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,600 so in the meantime some samantha is 1975 01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,000 being my rock at this time 1976 01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:03,440 and 1977 01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:04,960 she starts 1978 01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:07,120 picking up communication from a second 1979 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:10,000 being that is there that i did not see 1980 01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:11,920 at that time 1981 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:12,960 and 1982 01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,360 this being now remember i'm all about 1983 01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:17,199 travis walton fire in the sky in the 1984 01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:18,719 movie at that time 1985 01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,600 and this being says to samantha you are 1986 01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,440 more than welcome to come over and say 1987 01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:25,760 hello we're not here to harm you we're 1988 01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:27,440 not here to take you 1989 01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,960 however 1990 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,120 we are very worried about the man's 1991 01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:33,040 health 1992 01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:34,880 now it's only samantha and i 1993 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:37,280 she's definitely female right 1994 01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,960 you talk about me the man is you correct 1995 01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,239 and 1996 01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:44,000 samantha says to me do you want to go 1997 01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:45,360 over there 1998 01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,400 and i am like 1999 01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:49,760 no 2000 01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:55,280 let me let me jump in if i could 2001 01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,159 did were they were they moving at all 2002 01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:00,800 i never saw the second one i never saw 2003 01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:03,520 the second one it may have been 2004 01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:05,520 uh but the first one was not moving it 2005 01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,480 was completely stationary it was like it 2006 01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:10,400 was like they knew jimmy that i was 2007 01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:11,760 frozen 2008 01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:12,719 and 2009 01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:15,360 let me explain i wasn't frozen out of 2010 01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,480 seeing them i was frozen out of fear jim 2011 01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:20,320 that everything 2012 01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:23,120 that i believed up until that my first 2013 01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,159 40 years in life was now garbage 2014 01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:28,080 you know i i grew up in a household 2015 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,760 where you know 2016 01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:31,840 we weren't religious but we had a strong 2017 01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:32,800 belief 2018 01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:35,840 in in in god that there's a god there's 2019 01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,920 a devil there's a heaven there's a hell 2020 01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:39,520 if you're good you go up if you're bad 2021 01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:42,639 you go down but you know nobody ever pre 2022 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:44,719 you know whether it's my my parents my 2023 01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,239 grandparents cousins uh friends coaches 2024 01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,320 whatever nobody ever tells you what to 2025 01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,560 do jim and how to react when you're 2026 01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,639 standing at 40 years old staring at an 2027 01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:56,719 extraterrestrial at two o'clock in the 2028 01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:59,120 afternoon in a forest 2029 01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:01,760 nobody prepares you for that right 2030 01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:03,600 and 2031 01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:05,120 we 2032 01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:10,080 starts walking down the path towards him 2033 01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:11,679 and i and i literally yelled at her i'm 2034 01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,480 like please stop do not leave me 2035 01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:16,639 and i said i am not going back to the 2036 01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:17,520 house 2037 01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:20,000 alone if they take you because once 2038 01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,159 again suspect number one 2039 01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:24,320 right well you look you look like a 2040 01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:26,080 suspect too you see that's the other 2041 01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:27,120 thing 2042 01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:28,239 yes 2043 01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,560 and you know i mean 2044 01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:32,159 great hair like you and i have i mean 2045 01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,679 we're we're easily put as suspects so 2046 01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:37,440 the idea behind that was samantha 2047 01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:39,120 actually heard the fear in my voice at 2048 01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:41,360 that point and she decided to stay with 2049 01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:44,080 me and we we stood there for about 10 15 2050 01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:48,320 minutes just small talk talking about 2051 01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:50,639 what we were looking at and once again i 2052 01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:53,600 never saw the second being i i was just 2053 01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,840 fixated on this one and then all of a 2054 01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:57,360 sudden 2055 01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:58,080 they 2056 01:23:02,470 --> 01:22:59,679 we started getting like this feeling 2057 01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:02,480 that there were more of them if we moved 2058 01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:05,440 over to a different part of the forest 2059 01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:08,960 so we left that area went to the other 2060 01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:11,280 part of the forest where we felt there 2061 01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:13,040 was going to be more 2062 01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:15,040 there was nothing there we still stood 2063 01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,120 there for about 10 minutes there was 2064 01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:19,440 nothing there and then we went back to 2065 01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:22,080 the original place to where we saw them 2066 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:24,080 and they were gone 2067 01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:25,280 we then 2068 01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:27,840 figure well i guess the show is over and 2069 01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:30,560 i'm like i cannot believe this 2070 01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:31,520 you know 2071 01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:33,840 you cannot believe this my mind is blown 2072 01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:37,120 we start walking towards uh the the 2073 01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:38,400 fence line 2074 01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:42,320 going into uh our friend's yard again 2075 01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:46,320 and all four dogs come out and join us 2076 01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:49,440 to say hello hmm 2077 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:50,320 yeah 2078 01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:53,760 i remember um many years ago i i watched 2079 01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:56,560 a bunch of uh samantha's videos and uh 2080 01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:59,199 very smart very compelling 2081 01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:01,120 um did you 2082 01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:03,520 continue hanging out with samantha after 2083 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,560 that yeah samantha still to this day 2084 01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:08,880 plays a major part in what we do on 2085 01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:11,120 spaced out radio right 2086 01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:14,080 she's a monthly guest with our host uh 2087 01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:16,480 weekend host lyd wallington uh they do 2088 01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:18,800 an incredible job samantha is somebody 2089 01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:20,800 you need to get on your show she'll blow 2090 01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:24,159 your mind blow your mind the um 2091 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:25,360 uh 2092 01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:26,239 the 2093 01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:32,800 spaced out radio 2094 01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:37,280 you also meet johnny enoch yeah and now 2095 01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:39,840 that right there is a conspiracy in of 2096 01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:41,040 itself 2097 01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:42,000 um 2098 01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:42,960 how 2099 01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,520 this uh during this period uh going up 2100 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:50,719 and leading 2101 01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:54,000 uh to the the start of spaced out radio 2102 01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:56,480 well johnny happened to 2103 01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:58,960 uh know samantha 2104 01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:01,920 and asked samantha to 2105 01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:05,280 speak at this ufo event that he was 2106 01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,520 having in vancouver 2107 01:25:10,149 --> 01:25:09,120 and 2108 01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,159 i said 2109 01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,480 you know hey you know i'm a former radio 2110 01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:14,880 guy i maybe i can help 2111 01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,679 so 2112 01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:17,840 i i called up johnny 2113 01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:19,920 and i said on facebook i message them 2114 01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,159 and say hey i know you don't know me my 2115 01:25:27,910 --> 01:25:24,000 name is dave i'm a friend of samantha 2116 01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,920 moetz um i don't know if you need an mc 2117 01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:29,840 or somebody like that i have a radio and 2118 01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,360 back uh background and within an hour he 2119 01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:35,280 messaged me and he's like you know i 2120 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,520 just was manifesting somebody with a 2121 01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,040 radio voice to come on in and emcee our 2122 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:43,760 event and you got a hold of me 2123 01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:47,040 and he goes can we talk later so you 2124 01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:49,040 know i mean uh there's no 10 minute 2125 01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:52,080 conversation with johnny no it's it's at 2126 01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:55,440 least an hour to four hours and that's 2127 01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,239 how 2128 01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:59,040 we started ch chatting and and i ended 2129 01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:01,199 up emceeing his event 2130 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:02,320 and 2131 01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,960 you know on october 2nd i had a friend 2132 01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,960 of mine give me a front row center 2133 01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:09,120 ticket to 2134 01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:11,120 slash with miles kennedy and the 2135 01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,719 conspirators 2136 01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:14,800 and that was the only night that i could 2137 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,960 meet up with johnny and i turned down 2138 01:26:21,669 --> 01:26:19,360 the ticket to meet with johnny 2139 01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:21,679 and six weeks later on november 30th 2140 01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:25,520 2014 we launched spaced out radio 2141 01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:28,239 miles kennedy 2142 01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:30,159 johnny enoch you know i'm kind of 2143 01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,520 weighing that 2144 01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:33,840 it's kind of even that's a coin toss 2145 01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,600 that's a coin 2146 01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:37,760 that's that's god's honest truth man 2147 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,000 that's how it happened now i've got uh 2148 01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:41,840 i've got 30 seconds before the break i 2149 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:44,080 just want to ask you one thing um 2150 01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:46,880 bumblefoot how did that happen 2151 01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,360 the the short version 2152 01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,600 short version i met him in vancouver and 2153 01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:53,840 partied with him in his tour bus 2154 01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,639 after a show in vancouver after the last 2155 01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:57,760 gnr 2156 01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,800 um 2157 01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:00,560 residency in vegas 2158 01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,719 and i tweeted him one day and and said 2159 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:05,520 hey can i dm you and he goes sure i dm'd 2160 01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:07,840 them and i said i love your music i want 2161 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,400 to use uh little brother or 2162 01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,880 pink floyd or apartment the pink panther 2163 01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:14,800 theme he goes you can't it's a warner 2164 01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:17,520 brothers song he goes but i love your 2165 01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:20,560 topics love what you do let's work on 2166 01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,480 out a deal where you can use little 2167 01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,719 brother is watching and that's how we 2168 01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:26,400 got bumblefoot involved 2169 01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:28,480 you know there's a lot of great players 2170 01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,840 out there in the world and and he is one 2171 01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,520 guy you and i have talked about this 2172 01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:34,960 already but 2173 01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:37,360 but he is one guy 2174 01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:41,440 that that actually freaks me out 2175 01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,120 he he i mean he's he's too good 2176 01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,199 and i might suggest 2177 01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:49,360 he might be an extraterrestrial this is 2178 01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:51,199 fade to black i am your host jimmy 2179 01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:53,600 church our guest tonight dave scott now 2180 01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:55,199 listen everybody 2181 01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:57,120 we're gonna have dave on uh after the 2182 01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:01,199 break and then we are going to somehow 2183 01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:03,920 get our simulcast going you're going to 2184 01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:06,320 be a part of all of that and uh we'll be 2185 01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:08,320 right back this is fade to black i'm 2186 01:28:14,150 --> 01:28:21,350 [Music] 2187 01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:24,470 way out here we listen to jimmy church 2188 01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,430 you're listening to jimmy church and 2189 01:28:38,010 --> 01:28:32,960 fade to black 2190 01:28:38,020 --> 01:28:49,830 [Applause] 2191 01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,310 this is jimmy church 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01:30:02,470 --> 01:30:00,639 vader knots when you think about the 2221 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,480 future of our country and where we're 2222 01:30:07,430 --> 01:30:04,400 headed do you wonder about the food 2223 01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,440 supply i do disruptions in the food 2224 01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:09,600 supply chain could be disastrous and 2225 01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,400 they usually occur with little warning 2226 01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:14,400 that's why the smartest thing you can do 2227 01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:17,360 today is to stockpile emergency food 2228 01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,400 water and other essentials i personally 2229 01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,120 recommend my patriot supply they're the 2230 01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:25,440 nation's largest emergency preparedness 2231 01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:28,000 company serving millions of customers 2232 01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:30,560 for more than a decade in fact they're 2233 01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,199 the only source 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01:32:01,950 --> 01:31:57,280 revolution is on radio 2263 01:32:20,230 --> 01:32:18,470 [Music] 2264 01:32:31,050 --> 01:32:20,240 so 2265 01:32:31,060 --> 01:32:39,830 [Music] 2266 01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:42,470 all right welcome back fade to black 2267 01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:44,480 what a great week three 2268 01:32:48,950 --> 01:32:47,040 three three first time guest this week 2269 01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:48,960 tonight dave scott of spaced out radio 2270 01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:50,159 is with us 2271 01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:52,560 might be canada's finest export to the 2272 01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:55,199 united states since wayne gretzky uh 2273 01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:56,480 tomorrow night 2274 01:33:02,629 --> 01:32:59,280 we have on tom dango and then wednesday 2275 01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:02,639 night jazz shaw is with us and uh dave 2276 01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:04,480 okay now 2277 01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:07,199 here is the important question 2278 01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:08,960 right um 2279 01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:12,080 now in your mind 2280 01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:14,960 in your mind our et's real 2281 01:33:18,229 --> 01:33:17,199 you know going back to this period 2282 01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:18,239 yes 2283 01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:20,960 and my my mind i actually do you 2284 01:33:25,229 --> 01:33:22,639 remember the blue cylinder i was talking 2285 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:25,239 about yes in one of my first 2286 01:33:33,189 --> 01:33:26,800 conversations 2287 01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:33,199 i actually told him that story 2288 01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:36,480 and lou actually said to me 2289 01:33:40,709 --> 01:33:38,800 without batting an eye he goes did it 2290 01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:40,719 change color 2291 01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:43,679 and i said no it stayed the blue and he 2292 01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:45,679 goes i'm going to assume that it looked 2293 01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:49,360 like like a like a police colored blue 2294 01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:51,520 like a police light blue but a little 2295 01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:52,800 bit darker 2296 01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:55,760 and i said yes that's exactly it he goes 2297 01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,280 i've seen that 2298 01:33:59,910 --> 01:33:58,719 say what 2299 01:34:02,070 --> 01:33:59,920 yeah 2300 01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:02,080 he goes i know what you're talking about 2301 01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:06,080 now did you um in your skeptic uh 2302 01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,840 uh situation 2303 01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:10,880 did you go out into the woods where this 2304 01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,199 blue cylinder was to see if somebody was 2305 01:34:19,189 --> 01:34:14,960 messing with you you know electric 2306 01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,199 cables on the ground whatever footprints 2307 01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:21,520 the next day we did right we went and 2308 01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:23,440 looked around there was nothing by their 2309 01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:25,120 barn there was 2310 01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:25,920 no 2311 01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,840 like markings on the ground i mean we 2312 01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:29,199 could only get so close because we 2313 01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:32,080 didn't want to go into their property 2314 01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,120 and 2315 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:35,040 there was a big bunch of blackberry 2316 01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:36,880 bushes that kind of surrounded the trees 2317 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:39,120 that separated the property but we went 2318 01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:40,480 and had a look 2319 01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:41,840 and 2320 01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:44,080 there was nothing there there was no 2321 01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:46,159 marking on the ground like a burn mark 2322 01:34:51,189 --> 01:34:49,199 or anything like that uh samantha like i 2323 01:34:53,109 --> 01:34:51,199 said it was picking up on the energy 2324 01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:53,119 pardon me it was five days later because 2325 01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:56,639 samantha was there with and that's 2326 01:35:02,629 --> 01:34:59,360 kind of what what happened and 2327 01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:02,639 you know we we did met come out measure 2328 01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:05,760 where the aliens were that were standing 2329 01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:07,760 and we you know we looked to the log and 2330 01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:09,920 my my other buddy who owned the property 2331 01:35:14,470 --> 01:35:12,159 he stood where the 2332 01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:14,480 tall 10 to 12 footer was standing and he 2333 01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,080 was a six foot man 2334 01:35:22,629 --> 01:35:18,320 and he was barely 2335 01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:22,639 uh making a uh a size dent on where this 2336 01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:24,400 creature was standing 2337 01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:27,040 and yeah i'm pretty convinced man i'm 2338 01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:29,679 pretty convinced that extraterrestrials 2339 01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:32,239 are real and they are here what do they 2340 01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:34,080 want i don't know 2341 01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:37,040 you know i mean why me that's probably 2342 01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:38,880 the number one question that every 2343 01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:41,040 experiencer has 2344 01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:45,119 and it just seems to to continue on and 2345 01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:47,199 on and you know we never seem to get 2346 01:35:50,629 --> 01:35:48,880 close to the answers and every time we 2347 01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:50,639 get close to an answer another door 2348 01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,520 opens up that leads us down another path 2349 01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:55,679 you know grant cameron is famous for 2350 01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:58,639 that that the he he follows a path on 2351 01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,119 another door opens right in front of him 2352 01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:03,360 and that's kind of what what has 2353 01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,360 happened you know and i don't expect 2354 01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,520 people to believe me you know i mean 2355 01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:09,360 this community is very fickle and 2356 01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:12,000 frankly i used to get upset when people 2357 01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:14,239 didn't believe my story but now i'm to 2358 01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:16,639 the point where i don't really care 2359 01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:18,159 you know this is what's happened to me 2360 01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:19,840 this is what brought me into this 2361 01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:22,000 community i mean there's not a lot of 2362 01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:24,480 people making money off of this gym 2363 01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:26,080 and we are 2364 01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:27,600 we're doing it out of a love and 2365 01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:30,159 information and broadcast 2366 01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:32,480 and i'll tell you my life my happily 2367 01:36:38,149 --> 01:36:35,119 boring life before all of this happened 2368 01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:38,159 was much easier than what i'm doing now 2369 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:40,960 and i work 16 hours a day i still have a 2370 01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:44,320 daytime job i i moonlight doing this 2371 01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,440 uh to try and you know do what i need to 2372 01:36:52,310 --> 01:36:49,600 do to get the my message out or my 2373 01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:52,320 listeners or my guest messages out but 2374 01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,840 the fact that you know there might be 2375 01:36:58,229 --> 01:36:55,600 people criticize and say oh this guy's 2376 01:37:01,669 --> 01:36:58,239 full of crap it used to bother me now it 2377 01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,679 doesn't well you know now as as as a 2378 01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:03,199 radio host 2379 01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:05,600 you're now the the same crazy person 2380 01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:08,320 that you interview on the show 2381 01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:09,600 absolutely 2382 01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:13,520 you know i love the the weirder the 2383 01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,960 stories the better 2384 01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:16,320 you know i mean you take them with a 2385 01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:18,639 grain of salt every every single one of 2386 01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,520 them because you have to and and i think 2387 01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:23,840 what a lot of people forget is those who 2388 01:37:29,590 --> 01:37:26,960 are experiencing the phenomena 2389 01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:29,600 they tend to forget that everybody 2390 01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,440 usually has a very skeptical mind with 2391 01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:35,040 what they are going through they don't 2392 01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:37,119 want to believe this happened to them 2393 01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:38,560 they don't want to believe that they 2394 01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:40,560 woke up one morning and all of a sudden 2395 01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,880 they're seeing dead people or having 2396 01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,560 psychic uh 2397 01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:47,520 premonitions come to to fruition 2398 01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:49,040 nobody wants that they're trying to 2399 01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,560 figure it out on their own that's why 2400 01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:53,199 they listen to shows like yours and mine 2401 01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:55,119 and dave schrader's and and other 2402 01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,400 people's because they're just looking 2403 01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,679 for answers 2404 01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:00,239 and i think this community 2405 01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:03,199 has forgotten that and i wish it would 2406 01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:05,199 go back to remembering that not 2407 01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:07,679 everybody who has an experience is out 2408 01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:09,920 there for 15 minutes of fame 2409 01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:12,159 they want to know what's happening to 2410 01:38:16,070 --> 01:38:13,360 them because this has been a 2411 01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:16,080 life-altering experience that they 2412 01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:18,639 cannot figure out on their own 2413 01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:22,320 i wanted to ask you um as as a host 2414 01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:24,320 because i know that i've done this many 2415 01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:25,280 times 2416 01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,920 you take your experience 2417 01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:29,840 and your 2418 01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,719 interviewing a guest 2419 01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,040 and you have to have an open mind now 2420 01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:36,560 because of your own experience and 2421 01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:38,239 you're listening to somebody else's 2422 01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:39,840 experience 2423 01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:42,159 they hold the same weight or you know or 2424 01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:43,520 pretty much do 2425 01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:45,040 have you heard 2426 01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,040 similar aspects in your own experience 2427 01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:51,520 with uh people that you've interviewed 2428 01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:52,960 with theirs where you've just stepped 2429 01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,719 back and went aha i've never shared that 2430 01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:56,239 with anybody 2431 01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:00,320 yeah it has happened uh it's happened a 2432 01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:02,239 couple of times now 2433 01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:04,000 um 2434 01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:06,560 probably the the closest moment here 2435 01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:08,560 here's a fun story for you 2436 01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,159 uh i don't know if you've ever 2437 01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,119 interviewed a gentleman 2438 01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:15,840 oh what's his name now oh his name just 2439 01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:17,840 blanked on me we were talking about 2440 01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:21,360 buddha of all topics harvey kraft i have 2441 01:39:23,590 --> 01:39:22,480 not 2442 01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:23,600 okay 2443 01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:26,560 well i'm doing this show on buddha 2444 01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:30,480 and um harvey kraft is my guest 2445 01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:32,080 and 2446 01:39:38,950 --> 01:39:35,679 my old blog talk radio studio man that i 2447 01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,960 had was so cheap and johnny knows it was 2448 01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,800 we converted my daughter's bedroom which 2449 01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:43,199 was right beside my front door and it 2450 01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:45,199 had a bay window looking 2451 01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:47,520 i had a rancher style house so it looked 2452 01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:49,520 into my driveway and for some reason it 2453 01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:52,080 was a third night in a row that i had 2454 01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:54,159 not put my outside lights on and i 2455 01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:55,920 always have a guy who puts my light 2456 01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:57,600 outside lights on 2457 01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:01,440 and so i'm about 10 15 minutes into 2458 01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:03,119 interviewing harvey 2459 01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:06,000 and i'm literally about four to seven 2460 01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:09,520 feet no maybe four feet from my window 2461 01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,000 and all of a sudden i see something move 2462 01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:14,239 in front of my window on the other side 2463 01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:16,560 and i'm like oh crap you know at that 2464 01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:19,760 point i wasn't very uh open to 2465 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,159 announcing to my friends and family that 2466 01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,719 i had this radio show i was a little 2467 01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:26,960 embarrassed about it at first you know i 2468 01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:28,080 i was 2469 01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,440 and 2470 01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,520 we always had one of those houses where 2471 01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:33,440 it didn't matter if it was 10 o'clock 11 2472 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:35,440 o'clock at night my friends always knew 2473 01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:37,760 that the coffee was on or the beer was 2474 01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:38,719 cold 2475 01:40:43,030 --> 01:40:41,040 and i'm thinking oh crap somebody's 2476 01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:43,040 going to come to the front door my dogs 2477 01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:44,400 are going to start barking i got a 2478 01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:47,600 chihuahua dachshund that is you know one 2479 01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:49,840 of these dogs where a crosswind is worth 2480 01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:52,560 25 minutes of barking nonstop 2481 01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:53,840 and 2482 01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:55,520 after a couple of minutes i realized the 2483 01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,679 dogs aren't barking and there's been no 2484 01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:59,360 knock at the door 2485 01:41:02,950 --> 01:41:00,480 and i'm 2486 01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:02,960 what the hell is going on so harvey's i 2487 01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:04,400 asked harvey a question 2488 01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:06,719 how we got into this i put my microphone 2489 01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:09,119 on mute i swivel my chair over the 2490 01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:11,520 window god is my witness i swear on my 2491 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:13,199 children's lives man 2492 01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:14,560 there is 2493 01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:18,080 a giant gray alien head staring back at 2494 01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:25,590 no no no continue 2495 01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,719 so so i did what any man would do i 2496 01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,760 screamed like a banshee and i fell back 2497 01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:33,199 in my chair 2498 01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,239 and 2499 01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:36,000 i jumped back up 2500 01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:38,239 because i'm like no get up and look at 2501 01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:40,960 this thing and it was gone 2502 01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,639 it was gone 2503 01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:44,960 and to this day people who listen to my 2504 01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:47,199 show they'll know that i nicknamed this 2505 01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:49,760 guy carl i don't know why nicknamed him 2506 01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:51,600 carl and 2507 01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:54,320 he jimmy if it was a human being i would 2508 01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:56,800 have seen it was so fast i would have 2509 01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,000 seen somebody running from my property 2510 01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:02,480 all right i would have seen him 2511 01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:03,840 and 2512 01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:06,800 they whatever this was this alien gray 2513 01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:09,520 with giant bulbous head the big black 2514 01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:11,520 almond eyes that was standing right my 2515 01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:13,040 window was gone 2516 01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,000 now 2517 01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:17,280 um 2518 01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:20,239 in in 2022 dave 2519 01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:21,040 where 2520 01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:22,400 you and i have been covering this for a 2521 01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:25,280 long time and and so forth but here we 2522 01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:26,400 are 2523 01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:28,080 where i mean this is the obvious 2524 01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:29,920 question but 2525 01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:32,719 it's not just you and i anymore you know 2526 01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:35,119 talking about the subject it's it's the 2527 01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:36,560 media 2528 01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:38,800 you know it's tucker carlson it's the 2529 01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:41,040 senate it's the department of defense 2530 01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:44,400 it's it's pilots coming forward where 2531 01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:48,400 the subject now is standing right out in 2532 01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:51,760 front did you expect this to happen and 2533 01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:57,990 well i i was one of the people right off 2534 01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,639 the bat who if we go back four years 2535 01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:02,639 previous to the to the stars academy 2536 01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:04,159 coming out 2537 01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:05,840 you know there were a lot of red flags 2538 01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:07,600 for me right off the bat journalistic 2539 01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,600 red flags that i saw uh number one 2540 01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:13,679 you know growing up in british columbia 2541 01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:16,239 having a pressless press conference 2542 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:17,360 in 2543 01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,560 that 2544 01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:22,320 i would have totally driven down for 2545 01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,760 that and you know so i i had a real 2546 01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:27,280 skeptical view 2547 01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,239 of what the ttsa was going to do and the 2548 01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:32,480 fact that they didn't include anybody 2549 01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:34,880 from that we recognized from the field 2550 01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,520 of ufology and you know when the split 2551 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:38,880 happened 2552 01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:42,960 uh i i remember i wrote a a blog on that 2553 01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:44,960 that ended up in the hands of jim 2554 01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:46,639 semivan who 2555 01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:49,360 through melinda leslie basically said 2556 01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:51,040 and i had never interviewed anybody at 2557 01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,520 that point from ttsa 2558 01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:55,280 and uh 2559 01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:58,159 and jim had told melinda to tell me that 2560 01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:01,040 i i got it about 90 right 2561 01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,159 as to why ttsa collapsed and that's just 2562 01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:06,080 reading between the lines because jim 2563 01:44:11,669 --> 01:44:09,440 you know as a journalist and a media guy 2564 01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:11,679 the real story between anything is 2565 01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:13,119 between the lines 2566 01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:15,600 you got to be able to read in between 2567 01:44:19,830 --> 01:44:17,920 because that's where the real story is 2568 01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:19,840 and so when all of this started 2569 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:20,880 happening 2570 01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:23,840 with with the us government and elizondo 2571 01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:26,320 and melon and justice split i started 2572 01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:28,159 taking it a little bit more seriously 2573 01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:29,040 again 2574 01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:31,119 and just i i'm the type of guy where i 2575 01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,800 like to sit in the back woods and just 2576 01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:34,480 kind of watch 2577 01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:37,040 and see how things pan out 2578 01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:39,600 i i wasn't surprised that they were able 2579 01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:40,719 to get 2580 01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:42,639 the amount of support that they did in 2581 01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:46,840 dc for this i was surprised at the 2582 01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:50,159 continuation of the threat narrative 2583 01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:52,639 that everything is a threat and then one 2584 01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:55,440 day i was having a conversation with 2585 01:45:00,629 --> 01:44:57,360 sean cahill 2586 01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:00,639 and him and i were talking he goes dave 2587 01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:03,199 how do we get money in 2588 01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:04,480 politics 2589 01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:06,719 he goes in the united states i don't 2590 01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:08,560 know man i'm canadian 2591 01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,840 and he goes well in the u.s if we want 2592 01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:14,719 to get a budget we have to promote a 2593 01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:16,560 threat narrative because we don't know 2594 01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,639 where these are coming from we don't 2595 01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,760 know which timeline which part in space 2596 01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:23,920 which are they few from the future are 2597 01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,600 they from inner earth we don't know 2598 01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,760 where they're from and until we can 2599 01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:29,199 figure out where they're from and what 2600 01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:31,520 their message is we have to consider it 2601 01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:34,080 a threat which is why we're able to get 2602 01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:35,520 that budget 2603 01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:37,840 and i was like okay that makes sense to 2604 01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,560 me 2605 01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:40,560 so i understand where they're coming 2606 01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:42,880 from now with tucker carlson i never 2607 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,199 liked it i never liked the fact that 2608 01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:47,760 they were interviewing the same 2609 01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:51,199 few people i think the ttsa created a 2610 01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:54,719 narrative there that was impossible 2611 01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:57,760 for the ufo field and people like you 2612 01:46:02,390 --> 01:45:59,679 and me to get 2613 01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:02,400 any sort of message through because it 2614 01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:03,920 was the same people they were 2615 01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:06,400 interviewing every time you didn't see 2616 01:46:11,750 --> 01:46:09,040 dolan on there you didn't see somebody 2617 01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:11,760 like linda bolton howe or or grant 2618 01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:13,920 cameron or even the late stanton 2619 01:46:18,550 --> 01:46:16,000 friedman while he was still alive you 2620 01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:18,560 know we didn't see any of these people 2621 01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:21,440 all we saw was elizondo 2622 01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:24,840 melon tom de long david fravor 2623 01:46:31,510 --> 01:46:28,800 nico nick pope and uh his 2624 01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:31,520 brilliant brillo pad hair that he has i 2625 01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:33,280 mean 2626 01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:35,520 you know uh i'm just gonna bite my 2627 01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:38,080 tongue there you know a little bit but 2628 01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:39,440 um 2629 01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:41,040 that's all we saw 2630 01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,880 disappointing fact for me and i would 2631 01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:46,800 i've never interviewed nick pope and i 2632 01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,199 would ask him this point blank you know 2633 01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:51,040 because i think in journalistic 2634 01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,280 integrity sometimes we have to ask a 2635 01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:55,280 tough question every now and again and i 2636 01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,000 would like to ask nick point blank like 2637 01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,239 when are you not going to repeat 2638 01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:02,639 something that either lou 2639 01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:05,600 or chris mellon has said 2640 01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:07,040 when it when are you going to give us 2641 01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:08,639 something original we know you're the 2642 01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:11,040 guy you've let us know for the last 20 2643 01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:14,000 years you were the guy at the mod when 2644 01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:15,920 are you going to give us something 2645 01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:18,719 i want some juice man i'm thirsty 2646 01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:20,719 give me some juice 2647 01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:23,440 and it just never seems to happen and 2648 01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:25,679 that's not a critique on him 2649 01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:28,080 that's just what i see 2650 01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:30,719 and i think that for a lot of these 2651 01:47:35,910 --> 01:47:33,360 people whether it's elizondo who i have 2652 01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,920 high respect and regard for whether it's 2653 01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,679 chris mellon or that i've never 2654 01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,920 interviewed or whether it's sean cahill 2655 01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,480 who i think we've developed a friendship 2656 01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,040 they know that there are questions that 2657 01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:47,280 need to be asked and we're going to ask 2658 01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:50,080 very very uh 2659 01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:52,400 you know breadcrumb type questions 2660 01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:54,480 because that's all we've been fed 2661 01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:56,320 where in the meantime you know like i 2662 01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:57,600 was saying to sean the other night when 2663 01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:00,159 we talked uh uh 2664 01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:03,600 it's like ufology is is in first gear 2665 01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,480 going into second whereas elizondo and 2666 01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:08,800 cahill and that crew are shifting from 2667 01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:10,960 fifth gear to sixth so i said what can 2668 01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:13,520 you expect from the public when we for 2669 01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,800 70 years we've been stuck in first gear 2670 01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:18,800 you know so i think there's a 2671 01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,400 miscommunication 2672 01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:22,880 about everything that's going on and the 2673 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:25,840 softballs that people like like tucker 2674 01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:28,320 carlson or anderson cooper were throwing 2675 01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:31,840 at at elizondo in them well how come 2676 01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,320 they never asked about roswell 2677 01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:36,880 how come they never asked about phoenix 2678 01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:41,600 or kecksburg or area 51 or lazar or or 2679 01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:43,280 anything the reason why is they don't 2680 01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:44,560 know them 2681 01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:48,560 the mainstream media is concerned this 2682 01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:51,679 is a subject that really started in 2004 2683 01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:53,520 with the nimitz and we've been given 2684 01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:55,199 nothing else 2685 01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:59,840 very interesting take on that um now uh 2686 01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:02,239 here we we're at the point now 2687 01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,159 where i know that we've got to start to 2688 01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:07,440 gear up for the simulcast 2689 01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:08,159 so 2690 01:49:13,830 --> 01:49:10,800 why don't we at this point let's go 2691 01:49:15,910 --> 01:49:13,840 ahead and and take a little time out 2692 01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:15,920 dave's got to get stuff set up on his 2693 01:49:19,990 --> 01:49:18,400 end everybody's going to be watching me 2694 01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:20,000 i've got to turn around and get things 2695 01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:21,520 set up here 2696 01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:23,920 i'm just going to continue to talk to my 2697 01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:27,920 audience dave as you get uh wrapped uh 2698 01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:29,360 ramped up 2699 01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:32,239 on your end and uh then we'll circle 2700 01:49:36,950 --> 01:49:34,880 back at the top of the hour and we will 2701 01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,960 we will join up and get the simulcast 2702 01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,560 going you ready 2703 01:49:42,310 --> 01:49:40,560 yeah i'm ready for it man i'm ready for 2704 01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:42,320 it let's see what we can do let's let's 2705 01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,080 make this happen i'm going to go ahead 2706 01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:46,320 i'm going to i'm going to remove dave 2707 01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:48,239 i'm going to remove dave dave you are 2708 01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:50,800 now muted and i'll i'll see you on the 2709 01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:53,520 back end we've got a few things software 2710 01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:56,000 wise that we've got to get uh started 2711 01:50:00,390 --> 01:49:56,960 here 2712 01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:00,400 and uh i'm going to do that this is fun 2713 01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,520 and uh very interesting uh 2714 01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:05,760 uh takes going on 2715 01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:08,480 uh with with dave scott but 2716 01:50:13,109 --> 01:50:11,040 what was very interesting as i am by the 2717 01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,119 way i'm clicking through and 2718 01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,199 and uh getting some other uh software 2719 01:50:18,629 --> 01:50:16,480 started 2720 01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,639 and uh in a few minutes we will be 2721 01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:19,920 hopefully 2722 01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,040 uh set up and going 2723 01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:25,280 uh back and forth let me move this over 2724 01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:26,800 to here 2725 01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:28,239 okay 2726 01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,679 and 2727 01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:31,119 uh 2728 01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:34,080 yeah dave just give me the thumbs up 2729 01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:36,639 okay so we are good there 2730 01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:40,080 and um uh you know what hey hey hold on 2731 01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:41,119 dave 2732 01:50:45,109 --> 01:50:42,560 um 2733 01:50:47,589 --> 01:50:45,119 uh i'm gonna bring you back you're back 2734 01:50:49,189 --> 01:50:47,599 okay uh yeah okay so we've got a little 2735 01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:49,199 echo going 2736 01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:50,239 um 2737 01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:53,520 uh we will save that let me see hold on 2738 01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:56,000 a minute why would we have 2739 01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:58,159 are you there 2740 01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:01,119 okay oh hold on a minute uh this is my 2741 01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,159 fault 2742 01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:04,560 okay let me back this out 2743 01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:06,480 let me pull this up this 2744 01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:07,440 this 2745 01:51:12,390 --> 01:51:10,719 okay so we have an echo happening here 2746 01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,400 here 2747 01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:14,400 i think what has to happen is i got a 2748 01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:16,880 disconnect from skype oh yeah yeah 2749 01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:19,119 disconnect oh i thought i did 2750 01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:24,470 okay so okay 2751 01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,589 if i bring you up here 2752 01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:31,760 yes i should be able to hear you yeah 2753 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:32,840 we're 2754 01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,360 good yeah we are good okay so actually 2755 01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:39,840 we can continue yeah we're still live 2756 01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:41,520 and uh 2757 01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,239 see 2758 01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:45,040 i love this is if this doesn't prove to 2759 01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,560 everybody 2760 01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:48,639 what live radio is 2761 01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:51,920 um and look how professional you are 2762 01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:54,080 i mean that's just pro man 2763 01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:55,920 that's just pro 2764 01:51:59,589 --> 01:51:57,840 you know i don't have as many beautiful 2765 01:52:03,910 --> 01:51:59,599 guitars as you do 2766 01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:03,920 you know but uh i i am jealous of that i 2767 01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:07,360 am jealous of that you know um 2768 01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,920 this is uh before we head to the break 2769 01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:12,080 let me say this um 2770 01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:13,920 these things 2771 01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:17,440 um in back of me are not props 2772 01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:20,560 and um i went through 2773 01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:23,520 uh a life of music and learning how to 2774 01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,480 play guitar and hollywood and the sunset 2775 01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:28,560 strip and bands and 2776 01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:30,800 and that was my life 2777 01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,760 and 2778 01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,280 um 2779 01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:34,480 this 2780 01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:39,440 you know they're not props i do play 2781 01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:42,719 i've got a workbench over there um that 2782 01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:45,840 i'm working on guitars all the time i've 2783 01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:46,800 got 2784 01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:52,400 files and things and i'm working and and 2785 01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:53,599 um and 2786 01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:55,520 and and always 2787 01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:56,960 doing stuff 2788 01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:00,000 um and it's because it's it's it's what 2789 01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:02,639 i love and just like you 2790 01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:05,199 dave when i when i started fade to black 2791 01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:06,719 and i know that we've got to run because 2792 01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,159 dave's got to start his show and i've 2793 01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,239 got to get to a commercial break 2794 01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:12,400 um i wanted to talk about just 2795 01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:15,199 what makes me happy which is ufos 2796 01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:17,119 conspiracy the supernatural the 2797 01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:20,080 paranormal time travel lost history 2798 01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:21,199 egypt 2799 01:53:24,629 --> 01:53:23,920 and friggin guitars right 2800 01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,639 and 2801 01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,560 if i could just talk about all of that 2802 01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:28,560 uh in one show 2803 01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:32,560 i'm happy right and and hopefully uh 2804 01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:35,520 my audience will will be just like me 2805 01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:36,960 that they're interested in the same 2806 01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:37,760 things 2807 01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:40,800 and for some reason it it it's worked 2808 01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,960 over the years 2809 01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:44,560 and you know what you're you're one of 2810 01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:45,360 the 2811 01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:47,199 very few people who gets to do what he 2812 01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:48,080 loves 2813 01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:50,000 so many of us out there 2814 01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:52,400 in your audience and my audience you 2815 01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:54,000 know they're just trying to make it 2816 01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:57,280 every day and we're the escape for them 2817 01:54:01,669 --> 01:53:59,360 and you know we're we give them that 2818 01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:01,679 time to breathe to turn their minds off 2819 01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:04,080 from the real world for a little bit it 2820 01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:06,639 i think at times many of us whether 2821 01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:09,760 you're a podcast of of 25 listers or 2822 01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:12,560 you're a giant show like yours jim i 2823 01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:15,199 think we forget at times the importance 2824 01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:18,000 of the job we need to do in order to 2825 01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:20,159 to entertain the audience and give them 2826 01:54:25,830 --> 01:54:22,480 that break life is hard right now it's 2827 01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,840 financially hard you got a war going on 2828 01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:27,520 you know where there's still great 2829 01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:30,320 debates over kovid and 2830 01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:31,840 lord knows that 2831 01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:34,000 i haven't been to a concert in a number 2832 01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:36,960 of years because of this and 2833 01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:39,119 we all need a break and i think we 2834 01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:43,440 forget how lucky we are at times to have 2835 01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:46,560 uh an audience base like we do 2836 01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:50,159 in order to to really push forward 2837 01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:53,119 something that we have fun doing and you 2838 01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:56,960 know at times get paid to do and it 2839 01:55:02,070 --> 01:54:59,599 it's it really is a blessing man it 2840 01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,080 really is a blessing what we do i always 2841 01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:04,400 say uh to everybody 2842 01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:05,440 um 2843 01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:06,480 you 2844 01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:08,400 have something 2845 01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:10,080 i don't know what it is 2846 01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:12,960 but you've got your own secret 2847 01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:16,080 whatever that secret is that dream that 2848 01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:18,239 thing whatever that is that you don't 2849 01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:19,760 share 2850 01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,520 go and do it 2851 01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:23,520 whatever that whatever that little thing 2852 01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,719 because that's what's going to make you 2853 01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:27,920 happy 2854 01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:30,159 and you don't want to live a life you 2855 01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:32,320 don't you man we keep hearing it over 2856 01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:33,760 and over again right 2857 01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:35,840 you know the old guy the old lady at the 2858 01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:38,400 retirement home you know with that story 2859 01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:41,199 i could have i should have 2860 01:55:45,189 --> 01:55:42,880 but i didn't 2861 01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:45,199 you don't want to be that person you 2862 01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:47,920 just don't want to be that person go and 2863 01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:49,520 chase your dream 2864 01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,000 whatever it is succeed 2865 01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:54,639 fail miserably it doesn't matter you're 2866 01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:56,800 going to be happy doing it and that's 2867 01:56:01,510 --> 01:55:59,760 the secret to life 2868 01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:01,520 you got that right and that's what we 2869 01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:04,239 tell our audience too just just enjoy it 2870 01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:07,599 like have you noticed jim how how mad uh 2871 01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:10,400 over the last you know year that certain 2872 01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,320 people just seem to get when it comes to 2873 01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:14,400 these topics because of proof and 2874 01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:17,119 because of everything you know like 2875 01:56:23,030 --> 01:56:20,560 let's just enjoy it man i mean we're 2876 01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:23,040 i don't know how to put it but we need 2877 01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,440 to enjoy the stories if we didn't have 2878 01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:26,960 the stories none of us would have been 2879 01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:29,199 lured to these topics and we could thank 2880 01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:31,280 the late great art bell for that you 2881 01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:32,159 know 2882 01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,280 grand master of woo 2883 01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:40,080 and and you know i understand people 2884 01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,920 want proof i understand people want 2885 01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:44,080 answers they're tired of anecdotal 2886 01:56:49,510 --> 01:56:46,480 evidence they're tired of uh 2887 01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:49,520 fake videos and they're tired of cgi i 2888 01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:51,520 get that and i can appreciate that but 2889 01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:53,040 you know what when you get a heartfelt 2890 01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:56,080 story that someone can totally explain 2891 01:57:00,470 --> 01:56:58,400 to you how it's affected their daily 2892 01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:00,480 lives there's nothing better it's 2893 01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:04,800 beautiful radio it is and um i always 2894 01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:06,480 equate it to 2895 01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,480 we've only got a few minutes left 2896 01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:10,800 we all all of us 2897 01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,320 had that crazy ass uncle 2898 01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,880 who beast everybody 2899 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:18,960 but we loved his stories 2900 01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:21,440 and you just wanted him to get to the 2901 01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:22,880 end of the story 2902 01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:25,360 without losing you you wanted to believe 2903 01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:27,440 it to the end right and just go man that 2904 01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:29,920 was great that was great well you know 2905 01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:31,679 what that's that's where i'm at with 2906 01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:34,560 this and and and our audience because 2907 01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:36,560 this is theater of the mind 2908 01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:39,679 and and we all enjoy that i do too 2909 01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:42,320 and when i tell a story an experience 2910 01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:43,920 that i've had 2911 01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:46,480 um i want to tell it to the end i don't 2912 01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:48,159 want uh 2913 01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:50,880 everybody to go church ran out of gas 2914 01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:52,719 i don't want to run out of gas i want 2915 01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:55,520 the story to get to the end 2916 01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:58,000 and and and i enjoy it just as much as 2917 01:58:01,350 --> 01:58:00,080 everybody else does 2918 01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:01,360 and and you know what that that's 2919 01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:03,520 perfect that's what we all need to do 2920 01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:05,599 just enjoy it a little bit more 2921 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:08,239 dave you are the very best now i'm going 2922 01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:10,880 to roll into my commercial 2923 01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:14,400 and so when i return 2924 01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:17,280 hopefully dave and i are synced up we 2925 01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:20,719 are simulcasting and then uh 2926 01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:22,239 we're going to 2927 01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:24,400 do a simulcast with with spaced out 2928 01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:26,159 radio and fade to black so let's take 2929 01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:27,840 our break right here dave get things set 2930 01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:29,920 up and i'll see you on the back end 2931 01:58:39,470 --> 01:58:37,189 hello nicole sakich 2932 01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:39,480 what is going on 2933 01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:46,290 [Music] 2934 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--> 02:02:12,960 their jobs or their retirement savings 3009 02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:15,679 our national debt is skyrocketing gold 3010 02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:17,599 and other precious metals are a defense 3011 02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:19,840 measure against inflation and a stock 3012 02:02:24,790 --> 02:02:22,560 market that might take years to recover 3013 02:02:27,109 --> 02:02:24,800 so what can you do right now to protect 3014 02:02:28,870 --> 02:02:27,119 yourself called united gold group we 3015 02:02:32,070 --> 02:02:28,880 offer gold and other precious metals 3016 02:02:33,669 --> 02:02:32,080 delivered securely within 72 hours are 3017 02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:33,679 you worried about the stock market we 3018 02:02:40,550 --> 02:02:36,159 can also help you set up a real gold or 3019 02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:40,560 silver ira or a 401k safe and secure 3020 02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:42,800 united gold group makes gold ownership 3021 02:02:47,669 --> 02:02:45,440 affordable call now and get up to five 3022 02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:47,679 hundred dollars in free gold or silver 3023 02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:56,270 that's 3024 02:03:09,669 --> 02:02:57,910 800-753-85534 or visit 3025 02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:13,750 you want to know a secret i love ponies 3026 02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:16,639 i really love ponies i'm serious 3027 02:03:20,229 --> 02:03:18,480 i couldn't stay sane without pawn 3028 02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:20,239 instabrush 3029 02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:22,320 why fade to black 3030 02:03:34,730 --> 02:03:30,950 this is fade to black with jimmy church 3031 02:03:47,589 --> 02:03:34,740 on the game changer radio network 3032 02:03:49,669 --> 02:03:47,599 [Music] 3033 02:03:53,270 --> 02:03:49,679 all right welcome back fade to black i 3034 02:03:55,189 --> 02:03:53,280 am your host jimmy church now we enter 3035 02:03:58,629 --> 02:03:55,199 the simulcast 3036 02:04:01,589 --> 02:03:58,639 phase of uh tonight's broadcast 3037 02:04:04,229 --> 02:04:01,599 i've got nicole sakich uh in front of me 3038 02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:04,239 and dave scott uh over at spaced out 3039 02:04:08,870 --> 02:04:05,360 radio 3040 02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:08,880 and let's see how synced up we are away 3041 02:04:12,550 --> 02:04:11,040 from launching the radio side of things 3042 02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,560 and that's where we're going to kick it 3043 02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:14,880 off and we'll bring jimmy in at about 3044 02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:17,360 that time but thank you to everybody 3045 02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:19,199 about uh 3046 02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:23,520 just signaling jimmy tell them we've got 3047 02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:25,760 about two minutes to go here before we 3048 02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:28,800 are going to launch everything um 3049 02:04:33,109 --> 02:04:30,880 this is great thanks to all the space 3050 02:04:36,470 --> 02:04:33,119 travelers that said hello to me in the 3051 02:04:40,069 --> 02:04:36,480 fader not chat room that was wild like 3052 02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:40,079 you know oh you're loved you are loved 3053 02:04:45,830 --> 02:04:43,520 was there no the sor love i think the 3054 02:04:48,550 --> 02:04:45,840 the fader knots are showing up in the 3055 02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:48,560 space traveler the woo trains filling up 3056 02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:49,920 here we go 3057 02:04:55,270 --> 02:04:52,560 well and we and we thank everyone for 3058 02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:55,280 coming on in here and hanging on out 3059 02:05:00,950 --> 02:04:58,079 with all of us here as uh we are about a 3060 02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:00,960 minute to go here until showtime and we 3061 02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:02,800 are going to rock this thing man we are 3062 02:05:08,550 --> 02:05:05,199 totally going to rock this thing here in 3063 02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:08,560 a in just a a moment here as uh jimmy is 3064 02:05:14,149 --> 02:05:10,960 going to come on in and join us for 3065 02:05:16,390 --> 02:05:14,159 simulcast both on unx and across our 3066 02:05:18,950 --> 02:05:16,400 little mini uh radio network thank you 3067 02:05:22,069 --> 02:05:18,960 so much to ed clader horror round big 3068 02:05:24,629 --> 02:05:22,079 dog and eddie for the this is great and 3069 02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:24,639 so just to give uh and every everybody a 3070 02:05:28,950 --> 02:05:26,880 quick update as to what is going on 3071 02:05:29,910 --> 02:05:28,960 we're starting a simulcast in about 30 3072 02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:29,920 seconds 3073 02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:32,000 and this is fade to black i'm yours 3074 02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:35,760 jimmy church tonight we just did uh 3075 02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:38,560 90 minutes with dave scott over at 3076 02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:40,960 spaced out radio and 3077 02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:43,440 and we decided to do something unique 3078 02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:46,000 tonight for the first time which is 3079 02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:48,400 bring in all of us together and do a 3080 02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:50,320 simulcast two at the same time and then 3081 02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:52,560 after that tonight 3082 02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,360 i'm gonna go over and join them after 3083 02:05:59,669 --> 02:05:57,520 fade uh to black ends 3084 02:06:01,510 --> 02:05:59,679 and uh i think we're getting uh pretty 3085 02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:01,520 close to starting here 3086 02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:04,239 and uh 3087 02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:06,159 gary voorhees is in the chat room 3088 02:06:10,229 --> 02:06:07,199 tonight 3089 02:06:12,629 --> 02:06:10,239 look at this okay all right 3090 02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:12,639 and uh this is fade to black i'm your 3091 02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:17,280 host jimmy church on uh the uh on x and 3092 02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:20,800 game changer networks and uh let's see 3093 02:06:24,709 --> 02:06:22,960 how close we are now here we go let's 3094 02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:24,719 see 3095 02:06:30,530 --> 02:06:28,079 horns up let's rock 3096 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:30,540 here we go 3097 02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:39,890 [Music] 3098 02:06:52,310 --> 02:06:42,250 [Applause] 3099 02:06:53,750 --> 02:06:52,320 [Music] 3100 02:06:55,910 --> 02:06:53,760 from the mountains of central british 3101 02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:55,920 columbia to you listening around the 3102 02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:56,960 world 3103 02:07:02,149 --> 02:07:00,560 this my friends is spaced out radio i am 3104 02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,159 your host dave scott sitting in the 3105 02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:05,199 captain's chair of sor headquarters we 3106 02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:06,719 welcome you to tonight's show on our 3107 02:07:11,589 --> 02:07:08,400 terrestrial affiliates around north 3108 02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:11,599 america digitally on talk stream live 3109 02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:14,880 revolution radio and kpnl all of our 3110 02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:18,400 archives are free join us at youtube.com 3111 02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:21,040 forward slash spacedown radio do old 3112 02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:24,079 navy the favor hit that subscribe button 3113 02:07:29,350 --> 02:07:26,400 you can follow us on twitter at spaced 3114 02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:29,360 out radio instagram spaced out radio 3115 02:07:35,229 --> 02:07:33,440 show and on tick tock at spacedown radio 3116 02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:35,239 our website is 3117 02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:37,840 spacedownradio.com we have a plethora of 3118 02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:40,320 features for you rock out bubble foot 3119 02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,560 reach turkey poo's newswire check out 3120 02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:44,480 our swag as well tonight's show is 3121 02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:46,480 brought to you by chive charities help 3122 02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:49,040 make the world 10 happier by visiting 3123 02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:51,520 chive charities today you can find them 3124 02:07:55,990 --> 02:07:54,239 on our website we got a simulcast going 3125 02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:56,000 on tonight at first i didn't think it 3126 02:07:59,910 --> 02:07:57,840 was going to be a simulcast i was on 3127 02:08:02,229 --> 02:07:59,920 with fade to blacks jimmy church right 3128 02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:02,239 before this show and then all of a 3129 02:08:06,790 --> 02:08:04,159 sudden we figured out the technology so 3130 02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:06,800 i had booked nikki sakich aka nicole 3131 02:08:11,669 --> 02:08:09,599 sakic our favorite look around here to 3132 02:08:14,069 --> 02:08:11,679 uh come on in for the first hour jimmy 3133 02:08:16,310 --> 02:08:14,079 was going to join us for the second hour 3134 02:08:18,629 --> 02:08:16,320 but we've been able to figure out all of 3135 02:08:20,870 --> 02:08:18,639 the technology so we just said hell with 3136 02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:20,880 it we're going to continue this radio 3137 02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:24,719 show and simulcast it on everywhere we 3138 02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:27,760 want to go so i got jimmy church here 3139 02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:30,800 from fade to black the man whose hair is 3140 02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:33,199 like honestly it's herculean it's a 3141 02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:35,840 herculean hairdo which is absolutely 3142 02:08:40,149 --> 02:08:37,760 beautiful and you know we like a good 3143 02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:40,159 hair and beard combination around here 3144 02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:42,880 and you know jimmy welcome to spaced out 3145 02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:45,360 radio we've kind of flipped chairs here 3146 02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:47,440 now it's my turn to interview you and 3147 02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:49,920 nicole's here because well originally we 3148 02:08:53,270 --> 02:08:51,119 were only going to bring you in for the 3149 02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:53,280 second hour but i'm glad we're able to 3150 02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:55,040 figure this out man 3151 02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:58,000 nicole nicole can talk 3152 02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:59,360 i can 3153 02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:00,960 cole can talk 3154 02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:02,960 nicole it's uh it's 3155 02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:05,440 first off it's an honor uh to be here 3156 02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,040 and pulling off a simulcast uh for our 3157 02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:11,679 audience and yours is just it's this is 3158 02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:14,000 a special treat for everybody out there 3159 02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:16,000 um but let me let me back up for a 3160 02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:18,960 second dave and well again thank you 3161 02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:22,159 um but nicole and i 3162 02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:24,400 nicole was it la was it a year ago has 3163 02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,960 it been a year it was yeah 3164 02:09:35,109 --> 02:09:28,079 nicole 3165 02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:35,119 more in in seven or eight days than most 3166 02:09:40,069 --> 02:09:38,079 people should be legally allowed to um 3167 02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:40,079 on planet earth and we we 3168 02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:43,360 we truly became friends and and and hung 3169 02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:44,159 out 3170 02:09:49,830 --> 02:09:46,960 um and one of the and it was it was just 3171 02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:49,840 an awesome week um but uh putting that 3172 02:09:54,229 --> 02:09:52,960 aside uh nicole and i also had a special 3173 02:09:57,510 --> 02:09:54,239 moment 3174 02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:57,520 uh together with uh clifford mahouty 3175 02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:00,719 and she did yeah and and we got to hang 3176 02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:02,960 out with clifford but we took one of the 3177 02:10:08,709 --> 02:10:06,079 most spectacular pictures together 3178 02:10:11,990 --> 02:10:08,719 um and uh 3179 02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:12,000 uh one that uh i hold very dear to my 3180 02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:15,440 heart because of nicole's legs but aside 3181 02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:17,040 from that 3182 02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:22,960 we got to hang out with clifford and and 3183 02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:25,440 his glowing personality 3184 02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:27,360 and and sometimes you just don't know 3185 02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:28,880 what the future is going to bring and 3186 02:10:33,510 --> 02:10:30,719 certainly we didn't know 3187 02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:33,520 that he would leave this uh this earthly 3188 02:10:38,950 --> 02:10:36,480 realm this year but uh nicole and i got 3189 02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:38,960 to share uh some very special moments 3190 02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:41,440 with clifford last year too as well and 3191 02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:44,000 uh so a quick toast to clifford uh 3192 02:10:47,350 --> 02:10:45,360 nicole and 3193 02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:47,360 and uh that was just an awesome time 3194 02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:52,960 together so okay so now um who who is 3195 02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:55,440 who's the boss right now 3196 02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,050 i'm the boss 3197 02:11:01,910 --> 02:10:59,520 [Laughter] 3198 02:11:03,910 --> 02:11:01,920 you know 3199 02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:03,920 i want to ask you something jimmy 3200 02:11:07,750 --> 02:11:05,840 because you and i both come from a 3201 02:11:09,910 --> 02:11:07,760 sports background 3202 02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:09,920 okay out of all the interviews you did 3203 02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:12,320 out of all the the takes that you got 3204 02:11:17,430 --> 02:11:15,199 what was the weirdest story as a sports 3205 02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:17,440 reporter that you had 3206 02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:18,880 the uh 3207 02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:20,719 okay 3208 02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:22,880 i'm gonna share this with you 3209 02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:25,440 um we were live on the air 3210 02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:26,320 and 3211 02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:27,520 uh 3212 02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:31,920 are in front of me they're on the other 3213 02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,960 side 3214 02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:34,400 and we're doing the show we take a 3215 02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:35,840 commercial break 3216 02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,159 on a friday 3217 02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:42,480 some things you just can't make up this 3218 02:11:46,470 --> 02:11:44,239 is how it went down 3219 02:11:50,470 --> 02:11:46,480 we get uh 3220 02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:50,480 a bunch of stuff sent to us um 3221 02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:52,480 from a pennsylvania 3222 02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:54,079 grand jury 3223 02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:55,119 and 3224 02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:01,119 uh 3225 02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:04,400 you know sandusky right i said yeah 3226 02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,639 and he goes man uh i think he's been 3227 02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:08,159 indicted 3228 02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:09,119 for 3229 02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:13,199 talking about and he hands me the stack 3230 02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:14,079 of 3231 02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:17,040 now and and so this was on a friday and 3232 02:12:20,709 --> 02:12:18,719 i'm looking at all these official 3233 02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:20,719 documents 3234 02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:22,719 and uh 3235 02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:25,199 there's a general rule in journalism you 3236 02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:27,599 vet your sources three times 3237 02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:29,679 so i'm looking at this stuff and i said 3238 02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:31,440 okay guys we're in a commercial break 3239 02:12:36,149 --> 02:12:34,560 and i said get on the net we got to see 3240 02:12:38,229 --> 02:12:36,159 if this is real 3241 02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:38,239 and there's nothing out there there's 3242 02:12:42,629 --> 02:12:39,440 nothing 3243 02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:42,639 now what do i do i'm holding 3244 02:12:47,790 --> 02:12:44,960 you know 40 pages 3245 02:12:51,030 --> 02:12:47,800 of court documents with some 3246 02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:51,040 insane things being said in them of 3247 02:12:57,109 --> 02:12:53,119 course we know what happened later 3248 02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:57,119 but now i'm left with a choice do i go 3249 02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:59,760 live on the air with this 3250 02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:00,880 or 3251 02:13:10,470 --> 02:13:07,599 journalism all over the place 3252 02:13:12,390 --> 02:13:10,480 who's going to be first who is going to 3253 02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:12,400 write what do you do 3254 02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:13,520 and 3255 02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:14,400 we 3256 02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:16,880 broadcasted it and i read some of the 3257 02:13:20,709 --> 02:13:19,840 documents on the air that was on friday 3258 02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:20,719 um 3259 02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:22,880 and immediately 3260 02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:25,119 the backlash started 3261 02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:28,719 we posted a video on youtube and and 3262 02:13:33,589 --> 02:13:31,040 things and i started getting email and 3263 02:13:35,510 --> 02:13:33,599 crazy stuff and we had to write out the 3264 02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:35,520 weekend there was nothing on espn 3265 02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:36,880 there's nothing on 3266 02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:42,239 and i'm thinking man did did we just 3267 02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:43,360 blow it 3268 02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:46,159 right what's going on and the weekend 3269 02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:48,400 went crazy 3270 02:13:52,470 --> 02:13:49,360 and 3271 02:13:54,550 --> 02:13:52,480 uh i can't tell you about the the the 3272 02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,560 the insane email that i was getting and 3273 02:13:59,510 --> 02:13:56,639 the comments and stuff 3274 02:14:03,109 --> 02:13:59,520 that it was all bs of course well monday 3275 02:14:04,390 --> 02:14:03,119 morning happens and then the story 3276 02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:04,400 breaks 3277 02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:07,119 and i had to wait three days now i did i 3278 02:14:13,109 --> 02:14:09,840 break the story well yeah i did 3279 02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:13,119 but but at the time i was a nobody 3280 02:14:15,350 --> 02:14:14,159 and 3281 02:14:17,430 --> 02:14:15,360 uh 3282 02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:17,440 what what ended up happening and and 3283 02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:19,599 we'll talk about conspiracies and ufos 3284 02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:20,960 and everything else 3285 02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:23,360 but but let me say this 3286 02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:24,800 um 3287 02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:27,920 the the stress that i went through 3288 02:14:32,550 --> 02:14:29,840 and to finally have 3289 02:14:35,109 --> 02:14:32,560 cnn and espn and everybody else cover 3290 02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:35,119 the jerry sandusky story was a big 3291 02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:36,320 relief 3292 02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:37,840 okay it was 3293 02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,560 um i was thrust into 3294 02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:42,719 the world of 3295 02:14:47,990 --> 02:14:46,000 uh jerry sandusky pedophilia this thing 3296 02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:48,000 and the court and the and 3297 02:14:53,350 --> 02:14:50,400 and joe paterno has a heart attack and 3298 02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:53,360 he dies and and i went through about a 3299 02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:56,239 two-month period maybe three months of 3300 02:15:02,550 --> 02:14:58,960 covering this story every day 3301 02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:02,560 and i couldn't do it anymore it took me 3302 02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:04,800 into a dark world 3303 02:15:09,270 --> 02:15:07,920 and up through politics and things and 3304 02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:09,280 and d and 3305 02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:11,119 and and i just didn't want to do it 3306 02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:13,760 anymore and i came in one day 3307 02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:16,079 and uh i said to charlie and hilton i 3308 02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:18,480 said i'm i'm done i i can't i can't 3309 02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:19,920 cover this anymore 3310 02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:23,440 it's it's it's turned my world dark and 3311 02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:25,760 taking me into a dark place 3312 02:15:29,990 --> 02:15:28,639 i want to get back to the crazy world of 3313 02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:30,000 sports 3314 02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:33,199 today and we stopped covering it 3315 02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:35,920 and and that's it so you know out of 3316 02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:37,119 everything 3317 02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:39,280 of all the stuff that when you ask me a 3318 02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:40,719 question like that 3319 02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:43,679 it was that that uh 3320 02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:46,239 still to this day and i don't i i don't 3321 02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:47,760 like talking about it people ask me 3322 02:15:50,629 --> 02:15:49,199 about it all the time 3323 02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:50,639 and uh 3324 02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:52,960 and i just said you know what it it it 3325 02:15:55,669 --> 02:15:54,000 happened 3326 02:15:57,910 --> 02:15:55,679 uh but no i'm not i'm not going to 3327 02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:57,920 discuss the case i'm not i'm i'm just 3328 02:16:01,109 --> 02:15:59,760 not going to go there anymore 3329 02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:01,119 i'll give you mine 3330 02:16:06,709 --> 02:16:04,800 nhl trade deadline 2006 3331 02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:06,719 i'm in the war room 3332 02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:09,040 and it comes down at about eight minutes 3333 02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:11,119 after the deadline that the canucks have 3334 02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:13,119 traded this seventh eighth defenseman 3335 02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:15,360 named steve mccarthy 3336 02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:16,840 to the atlanta 3337 02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:19,280 thrashers and 3338 02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:22,400 steve was my inn in the dressing room 3339 02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:25,199 and back when he played junior hockey 3340 02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:26,880 the the kid i used to be a hockey 3341 02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:29,119 instructor before i got into radio and 3342 02:16:34,389 --> 02:16:31,840 the kid who he was his defensive partner 3343 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,399 was a kid that i trained since 14 years 3344 02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:35,760 old 3345 02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:36,639 and 3346 02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:42,960 i'm like 3347 02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:46,000 hey dude what do you think of the news 3348 02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:47,439 and he goes 3349 02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:49,280 what news 3350 02:16:53,750 --> 02:16:51,599 i'm like you don't know 3351 02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:53,760 and he's like no what dave 3352 02:16:57,669 --> 02:16:56,080 i said dude you've been traded you're 3353 02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:57,679 out of here 3354 02:17:02,950 --> 02:17:00,000 he's like he goes ah 3355 02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:02,960 and you bleep with the f word and he 3356 02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:05,920 goes to who i said atlanta he goes for 3357 02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:08,719 what i said future considerations he's 3358 02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:11,280 like oh no my wife's gonna kill me we 3359 02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:12,880 just moved all of our stuff here from 3360 02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:15,760 chicago and 3361 02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,080 now i'm going to atlanta i said yeah man 3362 02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:20,559 you're going to atlanta he goes give me 3363 02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,760 two hours 3364 02:17:26,709 --> 02:17:23,359 or give me a couple of hours call me 3365 02:17:28,549 --> 02:17:26,719 back i'll give you anything you want 3366 02:17:30,790 --> 02:17:28,559 and i was like okay 3367 02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:30,800 it took him four hours before the 3368 02:17:36,389 --> 02:17:33,760 canucks finally got back to him to let 3369 02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:36,399 him know that he had been traded wow 3370 02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:39,280 four hours on deadline day 3371 02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:40,479 you know so 3372 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:42,960 oh there's more to the story no no 3373 02:17:46,629 --> 02:17:45,040 that's that's the story but i mean just 3374 02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:46,639 one of those things man 3375 02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,080 it was just weird 3376 02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:50,399 let me tell you what what ended up 3377 02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:52,639 happening to me when 3378 02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:57,359 uh i made the change from sports 3379 02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:58,880 to 3380 02:18:02,150 --> 02:18:00,639 woo right 3381 02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:02,160 the um 3382 02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:06,240 sports as a sportscaster consumes you 3383 02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:09,200 it's box scores it's stats it's every 3384 02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:13,120 player of every sport in every division 3385 02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,760 everywhere you're now and the things 3386 02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:17,679 that you do to prep for a show every 3387 02:18:21,509 --> 02:18:18,800 single day 3388 02:18:24,230 --> 02:18:21,519 and it was consuming 3389 02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:24,240 and when i made the flip when i made the 3390 02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:27,120 flip i made the flip 3391 02:18:31,830 --> 02:18:29,760 i stopped watching all sports 3392 02:18:34,950 --> 02:18:31,840 i stopped reading 3393 02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:34,960 no more espn no more 3394 02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:39,439 nothing i erased it from my life 3395 02:18:43,750 --> 02:18:42,639 and now when friends and it continues to 3396 02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:43,760 this day 3397 02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:46,240 um and when my friends bring up sports i 3398 02:18:50,469 --> 02:18:48,719 have no idea dave i have no idea the 3399 02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:50,479 same way 3400 02:18:55,270 --> 02:18:53,359 i quit my online hockey league because i 3401 02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:55,280 didn't know who half the players were 3402 02:19:00,389 --> 02:18:58,160 anymore and and i'm just like this isn't 3403 02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:00,399 this isn't like me like i could tell you 3404 02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:02,639 the first uh first overall picks from 3405 02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:04,840 1978 to 3406 02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:07,920 2009 in the nhl draft and now what the 3407 02:19:11,750 --> 02:19:10,080 hell is becoming me this is horrible i 3408 02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:11,760 don't know if i like this person yeah 3409 02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:12,960 when i you know 3410 02:19:16,830 --> 02:19:14,800 who were the relief pitchers for the 3411 02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:16,840 texas rangers in 3412 02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:20,399 1995 i could go blah blah blah blah 3413 02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:22,319 right 3414 02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:24,080 it's god man 3415 02:19:30,070 --> 02:19:27,519 i've defragged my hard drive 3416 02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:30,080 it's just it's just all gone but i can 3417 02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:38,469 when you get hit with the passion of the 3418 02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:42,000 woo it continues and and nicole hello 3419 02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:43,200 how are you 3420 02:19:51,030 --> 02:19:49,670 you guys want to hear my sports story 3421 02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,040 you know what 3422 02:19:55,510 --> 02:19:53,120 it's uh it's it's all on the table 3423 02:19:57,990 --> 02:19:55,520 tonight 3424 02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:58,000 well i actually lean more towards you 3425 02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:01,359 guys now these days like i informed dave 3426 02:20:06,389 --> 02:20:03,680 the other night that i was actually a 3427 02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:06,399 cheerleader for years and years and 3428 02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:09,840 actually went on scholarship to college 3429 02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:11,520 for cheerleading and he didn't know 3430 02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:14,960 things like that existed 3431 02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,479 so it sucked all my sports love out of 3432 02:20:26,469 --> 02:20:21,040 me i just can't do it anymore 3433 02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:26,479 and i tuned in just in time for the cubs 3434 02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:28,479 to come out of their you know hundred 3435 02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:30,800 year losing streak and win the world 3436 02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:33,520 series and now i'm out again i'm out 3437 02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:35,600 that's all you know 3438 02:20:40,630 --> 02:20:38,560 yeah it's kind of weird um i'm the same 3439 02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:40,640 way in that 3440 02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,240 um 3441 02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:44,399 the night before the super bowl tell me 3442 02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:45,920 who's playing 3443 02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:48,319 okay all right you know i'm cool world 3444 02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:52,240 series stanley cup you know just give me 3445 02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:54,640 tell me what's up the night before 3446 02:21:00,469 --> 02:20:57,520 and and i'll dial myself in the next day 3447 02:21:02,070 --> 02:21:00,479 and then after it's over 3448 02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,080 you know who was in the super bowl this 3449 02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:04,319 year 3450 02:21:09,429 --> 02:21:07,520 oh the rams okay so the rams 3451 02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:09,439 the la rams won 3452 02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,399 even that's gone right even that's gone 3453 02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:14,240 it's it's it's just gone it's the way it 3454 02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:16,399 is um the um 3455 02:21:20,230 --> 02:21:17,359 uh 3456 02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:20,240 the the world of woo 3457 02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:22,640 um and especially now 3458 02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:23,600 is 3459 02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:26,880 so not only consuming but things are 3460 02:21:32,710 --> 02:21:29,680 breaking like every single day and it's 3461 02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,720 not just deciding it's not just 3462 02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:35,040 you know the the latest video and things 3463 02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:36,880 that are going on because that's great 3464 02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:37,760 too 3465 02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:39,840 but now it's it's the senate and its 3466 02:21:43,670 --> 02:21:42,080 budgets and there's the the department 3467 02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:43,680 of defense and 3468 02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:44,560 and 3469 02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:47,520 you have to really really stay on top of 3470 02:21:51,590 --> 02:21:48,399 things 3471 02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:51,600 and the jill brand amendment 140 pages 3472 02:21:55,030 --> 02:21:52,640 right 3473 02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,040 or or or uh 3474 02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:57,760 the the latest jazz shaw 3475 02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:58,720 you know 3476 02:22:01,429 --> 02:22:00,319 article that's coming out or chris 3477 02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:01,439 mellon 3478 02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:04,000 this stuff takes up my time just like 3479 02:22:08,630 --> 02:22:05,760 the box scores did 3480 02:22:10,070 --> 02:22:08,640 back when i was doing sports 3481 02:22:13,030 --> 02:22:10,080 mine as well 3482 02:22:15,389 --> 02:22:13,040 and jimmy dave knows this about me every 3483 02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:15,399 time you talk to me i continue on 3484 02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:17,760 conversations that may have happened 3485 02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:20,160 like months and months ago 3486 02:22:25,670 --> 02:22:23,200 like the drop of nothing and you just 3487 02:22:28,469 --> 02:22:25,680 sparked something that reminded me what 3488 02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:28,479 me you and richard dolan were talking 3489 02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,080 about in laughlin 3490 02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:32,560 and it was the current climate 3491 02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:33,840 of 3492 02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:35,439 the public 3493 02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:38,319 and what they know about ufology and we 3494 02:22:43,429 --> 02:22:40,319 were talking about with this media 3495 02:22:45,349 --> 02:22:43,439 overload how we're starting 3496 02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:45,359 like everyday people 3497 02:22:50,309 --> 02:22:47,200 we're hearing them talk about it like 3498 02:22:53,590 --> 02:22:50,319 water cooler conversation not just like 3499 02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:53,600 in hey did you see x-files that's crazy 3500 02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:54,560 you know 3501 02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:57,359 it's it's it's every but but but nicole 3502 02:23:03,110 --> 02:23:00,560 it's everywhere today wrong but this is 3503 02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:03,120 what i want to know if you've uh duly 3504 02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:04,479 noted 3505 02:23:10,309 --> 02:23:07,600 over the last two months when i've been 3506 02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,319 out in the world of course i'm the ufo 3507 02:23:14,469 --> 02:23:11,520 lady 3508 02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:14,479 but people are more specific with it now 3509 02:23:19,429 --> 02:23:16,800 they're like i know that bill just 3510 02:23:22,389 --> 02:23:19,439 passed it was in our uh the covet 3511 02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:22,399 amendment and they're like sparking up 3512 02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:25,600 like more intelligent conversation not 3513 02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:27,600 just oh well 3514 02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:30,080 i don't think you're weird that you 3515 02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:33,280 believe in ufos you know it's it has 3516 02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:35,520 turned and i was wondering if you've if 3517 02:23:38,950 --> 02:23:37,920 you've noticed that thank you as well 3518 02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:38,960 yes 3519 02:23:45,830 --> 02:23:42,399 last night uh my daughter nicole uh it's 3520 02:23:46,870 --> 02:23:45,840 her birthday 27 years old happy birthday 3521 02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:46,880 yeah 3522 02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:48,240 it was it was awesome we go out to 3523 02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:50,640 dinner and we're at 3524 02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:52,560 um a restaurant 3525 02:23:58,950 --> 02:23:56,000 that my mother-in-law uh picked out and 3526 02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:58,960 so we go and um 3527 02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:01,200 we have this dinner and it's all good 3528 02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:02,640 check this out 3529 02:24:07,750 --> 02:24:05,760 i'm not making up any of this 3530 02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:07,760 so there was a guitar player playing 3531 02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:09,520 acoustic guitar you know for the 3532 02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:11,280 restaurant up on the stage in the 3533 02:24:15,429 --> 02:24:12,560 background 3534 02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:15,439 and uh and he was pretty good actually 3535 02:24:18,389 --> 02:24:17,280 and so 3536 02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:18,399 uh 3537 02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:28,640 and things so we're walking out 3538 02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:32,160 and this is on all the all that i love 3539 02:24:34,710 --> 02:24:33,920 this is what happens 3540 02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:34,720 so 3541 02:24:40,550 --> 02:24:38,080 uh my daughter her aunt wendy and my 3542 02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:40,560 mother-in-law ex-mother-in-law uh evelyn 3543 02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:42,000 they're they're talking to this guitar 3544 02:24:45,830 --> 02:24:43,520 player and telling them that he was 3545 02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:45,840 great and then i step up and this is 3546 02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:51,110 are you jimmy church 3547 02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:54,240 and i went a stop 3548 02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:57,760 stop with that and he goes man 3549 02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:59,439 i heard your voice from across the 3550 02:25:02,950 --> 02:25:00,960 restaurant and i couldn't believe it 3551 02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:02,960 that you were in here i said wait a 3552 02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:05,520 minute no you're setting me up no and my 3553 02:25:08,790 --> 02:25:07,520 mother-in-law goes 3554 02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:08,800 he knows who 3555 02:25:13,910 --> 02:25:11,280 and and that was like 3556 02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:13,920 and what did suddenly 3557 02:25:19,270 --> 02:25:16,560 we're talking ufos 3558 02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:19,280 in with the guitar player at the right 3559 02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:20,800 that is where 3560 02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:23,280 it has gone today 3561 02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:26,960 you know everybody is aware and 3562 02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:30,319 everybody wants answers and and i loved 3563 02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:32,160 every i walked out of the restaurant did 3564 02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:34,000 the selfies you know the whole thing 3565 02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:36,319 walked out smiling thinking to myself 3566 02:25:39,550 --> 02:25:38,399 back to nicole's point 3567 02:25:43,110 --> 02:25:39,560 that 3568 02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:43,120 everybody is interested in this subject 3569 02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:44,319 these days 3570 02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:45,280 and 3571 02:25:49,830 --> 02:25:46,479 it is it 3572 02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:49,840 is it's uh who's caused this 3573 02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:53,040 i think it's not tucker carlson it's not 3574 02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,920 lou elizondo it's not jimmy church it's 3575 02:25:59,750 --> 02:25:57,600 not dave scott 3576 02:26:03,190 --> 02:25:59,760 it's not nicole sakich no 3577 02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:03,200 no it's it it's always been there 3578 02:26:07,030 --> 02:26:04,960 it's always been there 3579 02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,040 now there's a freedom 3580 02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:09,840 of talking about it out in the open but 3581 02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:10,720 i think 3582 02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:15,120 this has always been there um everybody 3583 02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:16,880 has wondered about this 3584 02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,200 you know this isn't some new thing that 3585 02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:21,280 started in 2017 3586 02:26:25,030 --> 02:26:23,200 with the new york times no absolutely 3587 02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:25,040 not um and 3588 02:26:29,110 --> 02:26:28,000 and it makes me smile it truly makes me 3589 02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:29,120 smile 3590 02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:30,399 do you guys 3591 02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:35,280 we're getting better at expressing our 3592 02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:37,840 ufology to the public 3593 02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:40,720 do you think in this vast world that we 3594 02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:43,120 live in or you know the rabbit holes do 3595 02:26:47,190 --> 02:26:45,280 you think we're good at 3596 02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:47,200 we're getting better at honing our 3597 02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:50,399 skills to make our voice heard because 3598 02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,960 i've seen a refinement i think in the 3599 02:26:57,270 --> 02:26:54,160 last 3600 02:26:59,110 --> 02:26:57,280 10 years in our field and i 3601 02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:59,120 i can't help but think that that has 3602 02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:01,040 something to do with the current climate 3603 02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:03,439 as well like 3604 02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:05,680 um there's been an interesting point 3605 02:27:10,070 --> 02:27:07,840 brought up lately in circles about 3606 02:27:10,950 --> 02:27:10,080 mainstream media 3607 02:27:14,389 --> 02:27:10,960 not 3608 02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:14,399 picking up on ufology because they don't 3609 02:27:20,070 --> 02:27:17,680 exactly know what the narrative is yet 3610 02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:20,080 so what what dave let's start with you 3611 02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:22,000 and then we'll kick it back to jimmy but 3612 02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:24,720 what do you guys think our narrative is 3613 02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:26,800 driving this forward now 3614 02:27:30,950 --> 02:27:28,240 well we got two minutes on mine and i 3615 02:27:32,950 --> 02:27:30,960 think jimmy you got about a minute 3616 02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:32,960 dave you just read my mind okay we'll go 3617 02:27:37,750 --> 02:27:35,200 with two minutes okay we'll go with 3618 02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:37,760 right we'll lock our studio clocks at 9 3619 02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:39,920 29. i'll say this 3620 02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:41,200 nicole 3621 02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:44,720 if uh i walk up to 3622 02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:45,520 uh 3623 02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:48,160 somebody at at a starbucks 3624 02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:50,479 and and the server leans over to me and 3625 02:27:54,550 --> 02:27:52,240 says you know here's your 3626 02:27:56,790 --> 02:27:54,560 your white mocha frap 3627 02:27:58,550 --> 02:27:56,800 um and by the way jimmy what do you 3628 02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:58,560 think inter-dimensional or nuts and 3629 02:28:03,590 --> 02:28:01,439 bolts craft right 3630 02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:03,600 if i get that 3631 02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:04,720 then 3632 02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:07,520 the the the the rest of the world is 3633 02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:08,960 starting to listen 3634 02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:11,439 and and i think we're getting close i 3635 02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,840 think we're getting close 3636 02:28:18,150 --> 02:28:16,000 i think we are too and and i think 3637 02:28:19,750 --> 02:28:18,160 though that the mainstream media 3638 02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:19,760 has to and it's going to be led by the 3639 02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:22,240 united states media if they 3640 02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,160 can uh get their crap together but i 3641 02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:26,960 really think that they need to open up 3642 02:28:31,190 --> 02:28:28,960 the journalists and and a journalist 3643 02:28:33,429 --> 02:28:31,200 outside of the new york times has to 3644 02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:33,439 take that chance put that maybe what 3645 02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:35,600 they feel is their career on the line 3646 02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:38,240 and really delve into the history of 3647 02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:41,200 this look any documentaries jimmy you've 3648 02:28:45,349 --> 02:28:42,880 been a part of a bunch of documentaries 3649 02:28:47,510 --> 02:28:45,359 over the years and uh you know we got a 3650 02:28:49,990 --> 02:28:47,520 lot of friends who are who make them 3651 02:28:52,469 --> 02:28:50,000 they're just not doing it we need a a a 3652 02:28:55,030 --> 02:28:52,479 ross coltar type of journalist in the 3653 02:28:57,990 --> 02:28:55,040 united states maybe a 60 minutes type 3654 02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,000 person to come in and really break open 3655 02:29:02,870 --> 02:29:00,399 the history but not interview the same 3656 02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:02,880 people over again let's get some some 3657 02:29:09,270 --> 02:29:05,680 mixture in there that's what we need and 3658 02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:09,280 and and again we're getting close to 3659 02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:10,080 that 3660 02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:12,720 you know and back to you know my little 3661 02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:14,960 jerry sandusky story 3662 02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:17,439 somebody's got to cross the line first 3663 02:29:21,590 --> 02:29:20,240 right and and everybody's waiting for 3664 02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:21,600 that moment 3665 02:29:25,270 --> 02:29:23,920 and with that i'm ready to take my break 3666 02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:25,280 dave 3667 02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:27,280 yeah i'm good in about 15 seconds here 3668 02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:29,200 so jimmy i'm going to send you out and 3669 02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:31,439 we'll bring jimmy back in momentarily 3670 02:29:37,030 --> 02:29:33,600 nicole sack it's jimmy church fade to 3671 02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:37,040 black it is ufos fading to black here on 3672 02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,280 spaced out radio tonight we are having a 3673 02:29:43,270 --> 02:29:40,800 hell of a time do you see nicole just 3674 02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:43,280 take charge of my show there just hey 3675 02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:46,479 jimmy you dave shut up i'm gonna ask and 3676 02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:48,880 with that this is fade to black we are 3677 02:29:52,469 --> 02:29:51,040 doing a simulcast with spaced out radio 3678 02:29:53,270 --> 02:29:52,479 i'm your host jimmy church i'll be right 3679 02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:53,280 back 3680 02:29:58,180 --> 02:29:55,600 more with nicole and dave after this 3681 02:30:12,230 --> 02:29:58,190 short break stay with us 3682 02:30:13,340 --> 02:30:12,240 [Music] 3683 02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:13,350 me 3684 02:30:21,590 --> 02:30:20,070 you're listening to jimmy church and 3685 02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:21,600 fade to black 3686 02:30:31,830 --> 02:30:28,950 hey what up y'all biblical fox here and 3687 02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:31,840 you are listening to my boy jimmy 3688 02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:38,630 despite popular opinion 3689 02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:46,790 but listening to jimmy church will 3690 02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:49,200 this is jimmy church 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know if they've brought me 3791 02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:46,800 in yet i am ready when you guys are oh 3792 02:35:53,190 --> 02:35:49,760 dave says one minute he's given me the 3793 02:35:55,270 --> 02:35:53,200 one minute signal and this is totally 3794 02:35:57,670 --> 02:35:55,280 great i want to remind everybody this is 3795 02:36:00,550 --> 02:35:57,680 first time guests week here on fade to 3796 02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:00,560 black we have uh tonight of course dave 3797 02:36:06,550 --> 02:36:04,080 scott and then tomorrow night tom dango 3798 02:36:08,389 --> 02:36:06,560 live from sedona arizona we're going to 3799 02:36:10,790 --> 02:36:08,399 be talking about the bradshaw ranch and 3800 02:36:12,790 --> 02:36:10,800 then wednesday night jazz shaw the 3801 02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:12,800 journalist is going to be joining us 3802 02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,800 also for the first time and then 3803 02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:16,800 thursday night is another fader night 3804 02:36:20,950 --> 02:36:19,280 with open lines all night long tonight 3805 02:36:23,030 --> 02:36:20,960 for you the audience is pretty 3806 02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:23,040 historical to 3807 02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:25,760 uh to go host to host uh we had dave 3808 02:36:30,469 --> 02:36:27,840 schrader on earlier tonight on fade to 3809 02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:30,479 black uh then dave scott then the 3810 02:36:36,150 --> 02:36:32,640 simulcast and then after the show 3811 02:36:38,309 --> 02:36:36,160 tonight i'll be over at spaced out radio 3812 02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:38,319 after fade to black and you can join us 3813 02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:41,680 all over there and um also tonight oh oh 3814 02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:44,160 i i think i think i'm back live from 3815 02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:47,280 fade to black and we have nicole sackage 3816 02:36:52,469 --> 02:36:50,399 uh researcher author extraordinaire 3817 02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:52,479 and we absolutely love her around here 3818 02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:54,000 and and we're just going to wait for 3819 02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:55,920 jimmy to unmute himself so that way we 3820 02:37:00,870 --> 02:36:57,920 can kind of simulcast with what we are 3821 02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:00,880 doing and get into some ufo talk here on 3822 02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,359 esor and fade to black as we'll be on 3823 02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,359 fade to black as well for the next uh 3824 02:37:09,270 --> 02:37:07,359 20-some minutes uh until the top of the 3825 02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:09,280 hour jimmy thank you for joining us this 3826 02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:12,160 is fun man yeah totally fun and i got to 3827 02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:14,800 uh unmute myself 3828 02:37:21,510 --> 02:37:19,200 this is pretty cool yeah ufos um and and 3829 02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:21,520 the question is who is who is the host 3830 02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:24,000 right now i'm gonna say uh dave scott is 3831 02:37:28,469 --> 02:37:26,880 the host because i just need to take uh 3832 02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:28,479 some time off 3833 02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:31,200 and uh but dave uh i'm gonna throw this 3834 02:37:35,990 --> 02:37:34,080 uh back at you when sure 3835 02:37:38,790 --> 02:37:36,000 when you have somebody like myself on 3836 02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:38,800 the show and you've got to tee up you 3837 02:37:43,190 --> 02:37:40,560 know that question 3838 02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:43,200 what would that question be right now 3839 02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:44,800 uh it would be what kind of hair 3840 02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:46,720 products do you use to keep your mane 3841 02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:49,600 looking fine sharp and shiny 3842 02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:55,190 oh man 3843 02:37:59,590 --> 02:37:57,760 i currently am using 3844 02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:59,600 i'm not making this up okay i'm just 3845 02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:01,680 going to tell you straight up 3846 02:38:06,070 --> 02:38:03,760 last year 3847 02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:06,080 at the conscious life expo 3848 02:38:10,550 --> 02:38:08,000 next to my booth 3849 02:38:12,950 --> 02:38:10,560 was a company 3850 02:38:17,030 --> 02:38:12,960 that had hair products 3851 02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:17,040 and they stocked me up and so i'm not 3852 02:38:21,349 --> 02:38:19,280 gonna say the brand that would be 3853 02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:21,359 uncouth that wouldn't be right 3854 02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:24,000 but i love 3855 02:38:27,429 --> 02:38:25,520 their products 3856 02:38:30,550 --> 02:38:27,439 and i've been using them now for the 3857 02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,560 last year and and and now this is this 3858 02:38:34,870 --> 02:38:32,479 is a private moment this is one of my 3859 02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:34,880 private moments so i'm grabbing the 3860 02:38:39,190 --> 02:38:37,760 conditioner right this morning i'm like 3861 02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:39,200 oh man 3862 02:38:44,630 --> 02:38:42,399 uh oh 3863 02:38:47,750 --> 02:38:44,640 i've got to get a hold of them 3864 02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:47,760 i've i've got to get i don't want it and 3865 02:38:51,590 --> 02:38:50,240 uh yeah yeah i mean i'm in love with 3866 02:38:54,550 --> 02:38:51,600 these uh hair products so they're in a 3867 02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:54,560 blue bottle i'll go that far 3868 02:38:58,389 --> 02:38:56,640 wonderful no seriously though i mean 3869 02:39:01,510 --> 02:38:58,399 let's i know our audience wants to hear 3870 02:39:02,230 --> 02:39:01,520 us talk a lot about ufos but jimmy for 3871 02:39:07,349 --> 02:39:02,240 you 3872 02:39:09,670 --> 02:39:07,359 the big question for me is why me so 3873 02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:09,680 why did all of this these situations and 3874 02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:12,640 these happenings happen to me for you as 3875 02:39:17,270 --> 02:39:15,040 someone who is a broadcaster wanted to 3876 02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:17,280 do this and and have reached the 3877 02:39:21,750 --> 02:39:19,600 pinnacle and now you've really you know 3878 02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:21,760 ingrained yourself within and built your 3879 02:39:27,750 --> 02:39:24,560 own fate or not community why is this 3880 02:39:29,910 --> 02:39:27,760 subject still important to you 3881 02:39:31,910 --> 02:39:29,920 not only on a humanities scale but a 3882 02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:31,920 journalistic scale as well 3883 02:39:37,830 --> 02:39:35,040 because uh and that's a great question 3884 02:39:40,469 --> 02:39:37,840 and and i'll i'll say this 3885 02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:40,479 that a lot of even though you touched 3886 02:39:46,950 --> 02:39:43,600 upon a little bit of of this earlier 3887 02:39:48,630 --> 02:39:46,960 a lot of the mainstream stuff that we 3888 02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:48,640 get which is good i'm glad the 3889 02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:51,200 conversation is happening um but it's 3890 02:39:56,309 --> 02:39:53,439 still a load of bs 3891 02:39:59,110 --> 02:39:56,319 and i have always 3892 02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:59,120 wanted to support the community and 3893 02:40:04,550 --> 02:40:01,439 support the community first 3894 02:40:06,790 --> 02:40:04,560 and i know that when i like your 3895 02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:06,800 experience experiences 3896 02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:09,200 um i've had my own too 3897 02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:12,560 and there is no way 3898 02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:16,000 that somebody is going to convince me 3899 02:40:21,110 --> 02:40:18,800 that some of the sightings that i've had 3900 02:40:22,230 --> 02:40:21,120 are terrestrial or secret government 3901 02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:22,240 program 3902 02:40:27,110 --> 02:40:25,040 uh that it was something that 3903 02:40:28,230 --> 02:40:27,120 is here from this earth no 3904 02:40:32,230 --> 02:40:28,240 no 3905 02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:32,240 uh 3906 02:40:36,469 --> 02:40:33,040 for 3907 02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:36,479 somebody to come at me and want to know 3908 02:40:41,910 --> 02:40:39,680 what what we saw when i say we because 3909 02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,920 generally speaking i've seen things with 3910 02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:43,520 a group of people 3911 02:40:51,510 --> 02:40:48,080 now um and and i'll say this 3912 02:40:54,150 --> 02:40:51,520 um i've told the story many times but it 3913 02:40:56,389 --> 02:40:54,160 needs to be repeated 3914 02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:56,399 i had a mass sighting uh 3915 02:40:59,510 --> 02:40:57,200 uh 3916 02:41:01,349 --> 02:40:59,520 seven eight years ago and i'm with a 3917 02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:01,359 couple of hundred people and we see this 3918 02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:03,680 thing the the fame now infamous right 3919 02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:07,040 the green chrome balls right so uh so i 3920 02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:08,560 i have this sighting 3921 02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:12,399 and that week i'm on coast to coast and 3922 02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:15,040 or that you know friday saturday maybe 3923 02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:16,640 even sunday i'm on coast for two or 3924 02:41:19,510 --> 02:41:17,760 three days 3925 02:41:22,230 --> 02:41:19,520 and um 3926 02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:22,240 lisa the executive producer of coast 3927 02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:23,600 calls me up and says okay so what's 3928 02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:25,200 going on this is on 3929 02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:27,520 the sunday after the sighting 3930 02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:29,680 she goes what are you doing on friday 3931 02:41:34,710 --> 02:41:32,000 and i said well friday's open lines 3932 02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:34,720 and she goes yeah i said okay but uh 3933 02:41:39,190 --> 02:41:37,680 my guest is going to be me 3934 02:41:40,309 --> 02:41:39,200 and she says 3935 02:41:42,950 --> 02:41:40,319 what 3936 02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:42,960 and i said listen i just had this siding 3937 02:41:47,269 --> 02:41:44,960 the night before and i tell her a little 3938 02:41:48,790 --> 02:41:47,279 bit about you go stop right there 3939 02:41:52,150 --> 02:41:48,800 go for it 3940 02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,160 and and this was dave on on everything 3941 02:42:00,150 --> 02:41:54,800 that i love i thought 3942 02:42:04,469 --> 02:42:00,160 that by going on coast and 3943 02:42:06,389 --> 02:42:04,479 telling uh the world about this event 3944 02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:06,399 was going to 3945 02:42:10,150 --> 02:42:08,479 be 3946 02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:10,160 mainstream 3947 02:42:13,910 --> 02:42:11,840 i it doesn't get any more than 3948 02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:13,920 mainstream than 3949 02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:16,479 me hosting coast on a friday night right 3950 02:42:20,150 --> 02:42:18,880 that's a big audience man it's a big 3951 02:42:22,710 --> 02:42:20,160 audience 3952 02:42:25,830 --> 02:42:22,720 and and and everybody is listening and 3953 02:42:27,269 --> 02:42:25,840 that includes you know msnbc and cnn and 3954 02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:27,279 abc 3955 02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:31,120 cbs bbc you name it right i'll even 3956 02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:33,600 throw in the cbc 3957 02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:35,520 okay all right now 3958 02:42:41,269 --> 02:42:38,160 um so i go on coast 3959 02:42:44,710 --> 02:42:41,279 i tell the whole story and then i go to 3960 02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:44,720 open lines and what i expected 3961 02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:47,359 was to hear from the mainstream media 3962 02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:49,040 the next day going okay what what 3963 02:42:52,790 --> 02:42:51,120 happened let's talk about this 3964 02:42:55,190 --> 02:42:52,800 you know and 3965 02:42:56,309 --> 02:42:55,200 crickets 3966 02:42:58,950 --> 02:42:56,319 nothing 3967 02:43:01,590 --> 02:42:58,960 and i said to myself 3968 02:43:04,710 --> 02:43:01,600 i know my calling now 3969 02:43:06,309 --> 02:43:04,720 if i can't go and support the community 3970 02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:06,319 in this fashion 3971 02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:10,240 because those 100 or 200 people that saw 3972 02:43:14,870 --> 02:43:11,359 this 3973 02:43:16,550 --> 02:43:14,880 they need to be able to go and tell 3974 02:43:18,950 --> 02:43:16,560 their friends and family about the 3975 02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:18,960 experience and also say you know what 3976 02:43:23,110 --> 02:43:21,200 and jimmy church was there 3977 02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:23,120 jimmy church went on coast to coast go 3978 02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:24,479 and listen 3979 02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:26,720 he will back up everything that i am 3980 02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:29,120 telling you he was there 3981 02:43:34,469 --> 02:43:31,600 and and that was the most important 3982 02:43:37,670 --> 02:43:34,479 thing this community needed a voice dave 3983 02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:37,680 and and here's the other part 3984 02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:41,279 that night i literally said to myself 3985 02:43:52,630 --> 02:43:43,120 what if 3986 02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:52,640 was out here would they in turn go on 3987 02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:55,920 cnn or you know would tucker go on fox 3988 02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:57,680 if he was here the next day 3989 02:44:01,590 --> 02:43:59,760 and and tell the world about their 3990 02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:01,600 experience well you know what the answer 3991 02:44:08,469 --> 02:44:04,560 is no they would not 3992 02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:08,479 and that's the problem so i have chosen 3993 02:44:13,990 --> 02:44:11,359 to do what i'm doing now because of all 3994 02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:14,000 of that and my first-hand experience 3995 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:15,120 with this 3996 02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:18,000 and it made me angry i was not cool with 3997 02:44:23,590 --> 02:44:20,640 it and i've never looked back 3998 02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:23,600 i don't care if i'm the green chrome 3999 02:44:28,790 --> 02:44:26,319 balls guy right i don't care 4000 02:44:31,030 --> 02:44:28,800 throw that label on me but those 200 4001 02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:31,040 people that were with me you know that 4002 02:44:37,590 --> 02:44:34,720 night they get that support and i will 4003 02:44:40,309 --> 02:44:37,600 always put the community first and 4004 02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:40,319 that's it that's my bliss and i'm okay 4005 02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:41,920 with it 4006 02:44:45,910 --> 02:44:44,240 and you know i had a similar situation 4007 02:44:48,150 --> 02:44:45,920 uh not as many people there were there 4008 02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:48,160 were four of us standing in our patio 4009 02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:49,760 and we were all having some beers and 4010 02:44:54,630 --> 02:44:52,080 had a little fire going my fire pit and 4011 02:44:57,190 --> 02:44:54,640 we watched this orb at about four or 4012 02:44:59,670 --> 02:44:57,200 five thousand feet and it was 4013 02:45:02,309 --> 02:44:59,680 it was the size of a vw bug this orb 4014 02:45:03,910 --> 02:45:02,319 come slowly following the fraser river 4015 02:45:06,870 --> 02:45:03,920 in where i lived in mission british 4016 02:45:08,870 --> 02:45:06,880 columbia back then and then it got over 4017 02:45:11,429 --> 02:45:08,880 to where in our town where there's a 4018 02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:11,439 drag strip it got over the drag strip it 4019 02:45:17,790 --> 02:45:14,479 did a 90 degree turn towards south 4020 02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:17,800 towards the u.s border and then it did a 4021 02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:21,520 180 degree turn and then dropped right 4022 02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:23,279 where there would be a lake like it 4023 02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:25,359 dropped right into the lake i called up 4024 02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:27,359 my former radio station and my buddy 4025 02:45:33,429 --> 02:45:30,160 john who i'd worked seven years with 4026 02:45:35,750 --> 02:45:33,439 he he answers the phone he's an editor 4027 02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:35,760 at that time and i'm like hey john it's 4028 02:45:39,750 --> 02:45:37,439 dave and he's like hey man how you doing 4029 02:45:42,389 --> 02:45:39,760 i said you got any strange reports of 4030 02:45:43,670 --> 02:45:42,399 strange lights out in mission he goes no 4031 02:45:45,990 --> 02:45:43,680 what happened so i told him what 4032 02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:46,000 happened and it's like 4033 02:45:49,429 --> 02:45:47,760 how much have you had to drink dave i 4034 02:45:52,150 --> 02:45:49,439 said john you know i don't drink 4035 02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:52,160 he goes well what are you smoking then 4036 02:45:55,830 --> 02:45:53,920 and i'm like come on buddy i said you 4037 02:45:57,750 --> 02:45:55,840 know me better than this i'm not gonna 4038 02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:57,760 phone you up with a bunch of bs i 4039 02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:59,520 started to get pissed off 4040 02:46:03,670 --> 02:46:01,279 and i said i'm not gonna waste my time 4041 02:46:05,830 --> 02:46:03,680 and and phone you with this bs all i'm 4042 02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:05,840 asking is have you heard of anything and 4043 02:46:09,269 --> 02:46:07,520 he goes nope haven't heard anything 4044 02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:09,279 gotta run here bud 4045 02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:12,479 i'm like okay i got you now i got you 4046 02:46:17,349 --> 02:46:14,720 down the me see the big thing that i've 4047 02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:17,359 noticed jim and maybe you have to having 4048 02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:19,200 that media background there's all these 4049 02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:21,120 people out there with this conspiracy 4050 02:46:24,550 --> 02:46:22,000 theory 4051 02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:24,560 that the mainstream media 4052 02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:27,600 uh is is controlled by what they're 4053 02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:29,680 allowed to say and what they're not 4054 02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:31,760 allowed to say and the editors have to 4055 02:46:34,790 --> 02:46:33,600 follow those rules 4056 02:46:36,710 --> 02:46:34,800 and i don't know what it's like in the 4057 02:46:38,309 --> 02:46:36,720 u.s i can only speak for candidates it's 4058 02:46:39,830 --> 02:46:38,319 the same thing that's the same thing 4059 02:46:43,030 --> 02:46:39,840 there's no difference 4060 02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:43,040 so i mean it's not like that what people 4061 02:46:46,630 --> 02:46:44,720 have to realize is 4062 02:46:48,870 --> 02:46:46,640 journalists out there 4063 02:46:51,269 --> 02:46:48,880 don't know how to cover this story they 4064 02:46:53,110 --> 02:46:51,279 don't want to cover this story because 4065 02:46:55,269 --> 02:46:53,120 they still have the image that the 4066 02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:55,279 nicole sackages the jimmy churches the 4067 02:46:59,910 --> 02:46:57,439 dave scott's and everybody in your 4068 02:47:03,110 --> 02:46:59,920 audience in my audience is just a bunch 4069 02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:03,120 of tinfoil hat night shift gas station 4070 02:47:07,750 --> 02:47:05,680 jockeys who have no dental plan and have 4071 02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:07,760 never made more than minimum wage right 4072 02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:09,439 they're not worried about the dolans or 4073 02:47:15,030 --> 02:47:12,800 the bob mcguire's or the gary nolan's or 4074 02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:15,040 or the avi loebs they're not worried 4075 02:47:17,830 --> 02:47:16,319 about that they don't want to look into 4076 02:47:19,590 --> 02:47:17,840 that that's right that's right that's 4077 02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:19,600 right well you describe nicole pretty 4078 02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:22,720 accurately there i'm not uh true but but 4079 02:47:26,150 --> 02:47:24,560 let me say this 4080 02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:26,160 um 4081 02:47:30,550 --> 02:47:28,000 when i was in school 4082 02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:30,560 and here in los angeles uh going to 4083 02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:33,359 school for broadcast and journalism tv 4084 02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:34,960 radio all that stuff 4085 02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:39,040 um our our teachers are all 4086 02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:41,520 professionals in the industry we're in 4087 02:47:47,190 --> 02:47:43,600 los angeles right so everybody's here 4088 02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:47,200 and one of these uh instructors cool 4089 02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:49,520 dude work for cnn 4090 02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:51,680 and so 4091 02:47:56,230 --> 02:47:52,479 uh 4092 02:47:58,870 --> 02:47:56,240 about 4093 02:48:02,150 --> 02:47:58,880 whatever and but i turned to him and i 4094 02:48:03,830 --> 02:48:02,160 said so 4095 02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:03,840 about he was talking about news 4096 02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:06,160 directors and how to present a story and 4097 02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:07,840 you know how to write you know things up 4098 02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:10,080 and and and we're working on articles 4099 02:48:12,790 --> 02:48:12,080 and things and i said what what what 4100 02:48:14,309 --> 02:48:12,800 about 4101 02:48:17,190 --> 02:48:14,319 what if you had 4102 02:48:19,590 --> 02:48:17,200 a story about ufos 4103 02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:19,600 he turns he just like looked at me and 4104 02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:22,319 and and uh 4105 02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:23,920 he said well what do you mean i said 4106 02:48:27,910 --> 02:48:26,000 look i i'm talking about a signing or 4107 02:48:29,349 --> 02:48:27,920 craft lands you know things and you've 4108 02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:29,359 got video and you've got photographs and 4109 02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:31,200 things that what do you do then with 4110 02:48:36,230 --> 02:48:34,399 your news director and he goes nothing 4111 02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:36,240 i said what do you mean he goes no 4112 02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:40,399 you're not gonna take a story about ufos 4113 02:48:44,230 --> 02:48:42,720 to your news director 4114 02:48:45,670 --> 02:48:44,240 i said well why not because that's a 4115 02:48:48,950 --> 02:48:45,680 career killer 4116 02:48:50,070 --> 02:48:48,960 i would never no no no ufos are off 4117 02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:50,080 limits 4118 02:48:53,910 --> 02:48:52,880 and i sat back i swear i swear dave i 4119 02:48:56,469 --> 02:48:53,920 was like 4120 02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:56,479 i know what i'm doing now 4121 02:49:02,630 --> 02:48:59,120 you know and if that's the and and he's 4122 02:49:06,309 --> 02:49:02,640 absolutely right it is the kiss of death 4123 02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:06,319 um traditionally in in this world 4124 02:49:13,429 --> 02:49:11,600 only a few uh before where we are today 4125 02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:13,439 we're successful at it 4126 02:49:17,269 --> 02:49:15,439 and it's just a few of course you have 4127 02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:17,279 art bell and and coast to coast that's 4128 02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:18,960 the first thing comes to mind before 4129 02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:21,040 that long john neville 4130 02:49:25,670 --> 02:49:23,439 out of new york um 4131 02:49:27,990 --> 02:49:25,680 tell me somebody else 4132 02:49:29,750 --> 02:49:28,000 bring me another name 4133 02:49:32,309 --> 02:49:29,760 right now there are millions of 4134 02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:32,319 sportscasters out there there's millions 4135 02:49:36,630 --> 02:49:33,680 of political 4136 02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:36,640 uh there's so many talking heads that 4137 02:49:41,030 --> 02:49:37,680 are out there 4138 02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:41,040 but but bring these bring me right it 4139 02:49:44,870 --> 02:49:42,399 doesn't exist 4140 02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:44,880 so i totally get that 4141 02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:48,160 and it's just the way that it is and i i 4142 02:49:52,389 --> 02:49:51,120 knew i knew then that that's what i 4143 02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:52,399 wanted to do 4144 02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:56,080 when when i started i got i i did i got 4145 02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:59,120 i got fairly lucky out of the gate um 4146 02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:01,520 art bell decided to quit 4147 02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:03,760 and uh his radio show and i was able to 4148 02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:04,960 go in and 4149 02:50:10,870 --> 02:50:08,080 and uh you know keep his seat warm on 4150 02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:10,880 his network for a year year and a half 4151 02:50:15,670 --> 02:50:12,960 and while that was going down i got the 4152 02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,680 opportunity to go over to coast to coast 4153 02:50:18,870 --> 02:50:17,279 and for a little bit there for a few 4154 02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:18,880 months i think i did both shows at the 4155 02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:20,080 same time 4156 02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:23,279 and uh and then uh fade to black uh 4157 02:50:28,630 --> 02:50:25,439 continued and i continued on over at 4158 02:50:31,110 --> 02:50:28,640 coast for uh almost seven years 4159 02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:31,120 and and i was given that opportunity and 4160 02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:33,760 i did not want to 4161 02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:36,880 um ever let my foot off of the gas there 4162 02:50:41,429 --> 02:50:39,439 were too many things not only my own 4163 02:50:43,190 --> 02:50:41,439 personal experiences 4164 02:50:45,830 --> 02:50:43,200 but there were too many things that were 4165 02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:45,840 going on at the same time and i just 4166 02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:49,760 felt that things were going to break 4167 02:50:55,349 --> 02:50:52,880 there are too many experiences out there 4168 02:50:57,830 --> 02:50:55,359 um and i'll say this this 4169 02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:57,840 is not that long-winded but let me close 4170 02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,600 with this 4171 02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:01,439 millions of people 4172 02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:03,439 have seen things 4173 02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:07,120 and you it's not a case of mass 4174 02:51:09,670 --> 02:51:08,560 psychosis 4175 02:51:12,469 --> 02:51:09,680 it's not 4176 02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:12,479 and whether it's abduction or contact or 4177 02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:14,960 sightings in the sky or whatever it's 4178 02:51:16,870 --> 02:51:15,920 not 4179 02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:16,880 uh 4180 02:51:25,510 --> 02:51:22,479 crazy 4181 02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:25,520 because i have seen what i have seen 4182 02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:28,960 right and that's it i that i just that's 4183 02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:32,000 the line in the sand right there for me 4184 02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:34,479 i know that i'm not crazy and when i 4185 02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,560 have a siding with a bunch of people and 4186 02:51:40,309 --> 02:51:38,319 we all see the same thing at the same 4187 02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:40,319 time and we turn around 4188 02:51:45,830 --> 02:51:42,720 and like i said to you earlier dave on 4189 02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:45,840 fade to black i am now the crazy dude 4190 02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,640 i'm the crazy person that 4191 02:51:53,429 --> 02:51:50,479 that is out there 4192 02:51:56,550 --> 02:51:53,439 and and i'm okay with that that that's 4193 02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:56,560 it and that's where things are today 4194 02:52:05,349 --> 02:52:01,120 um i i know and i feel that we're in a 4195 02:52:07,990 --> 02:52:05,359 tangible area where i can feel this ufo 4196 02:52:08,870 --> 02:52:08,000 subject out in front of us where it is 4197 02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:08,880 real 4198 02:52:15,030 --> 02:52:12,479 and things are about to break 4199 02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:15,040 it's about to take off 4200 02:52:19,269 --> 02:52:16,960 and i'm just glad that i'm here along 4201 02:52:21,670 --> 02:52:19,279 with you and nicole and everybody else 4202 02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:21,680 in our community that uh we can enjoy 4203 02:52:26,389 --> 02:52:23,680 this ride together 4204 02:52:28,550 --> 02:52:26,399 but the question is what is that 4205 02:52:31,429 --> 02:52:28,560 we're all ready for the ride man we're 4206 02:52:33,990 --> 02:52:31,439 all ready for it okay but what is the 4207 02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:34,000 ride we are going to take nicole and i 4208 02:52:40,389 --> 02:52:36,720 have talked numerous times both on the 4209 02:52:42,790 --> 02:52:40,399 phone and mostly on the phone uh about 4210 02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:42,800 what narrative are they giving us 4211 02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:46,240 okay what narrative are they are they 4212 02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:48,560 trying to hide from us and and i have 4213 02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:50,880 said numerous times in nicole and i have 4214 02:52:56,550 --> 02:52:53,680 discussed this there is this ufos 4215 02:52:59,190 --> 02:52:56,560 pandora's box jimmy that is sitting 4216 02:53:02,070 --> 02:52:59,200 somewhere deep inside the pentagon that 4217 02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:02,080 holds some unreal secrets 4218 02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:05,600 and until they open up that pandora's 4219 02:53:10,550 --> 02:53:07,600 box for ufos 4220 02:53:12,790 --> 02:53:10,560 there is no story out there 4221 02:53:15,750 --> 02:53:12,800 as a matter no matter how outlandish it 4222 02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:15,760 is there is no story out there that can 4223 02:53:20,790 --> 02:53:18,080 be proven or disproven whether it's 4224 02:53:23,349 --> 02:53:20,800 eisenhower meeting with the aliens and 4225 02:53:24,550 --> 02:53:23,359 trading humans for technology to bob 4226 02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:24,560 lazar 4227 02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:27,600 and area 51 to everything we are seeing 4228 02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:28,560 today 4229 02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:32,080 nothing is off the table and as ufology 4230 02:53:37,590 --> 02:53:34,880 we need to re we need to reiterate and 4231 02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:37,600 understand that we have to go back we 4232 02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:39,840 don't have a choice but to keep that 4233 02:53:45,590 --> 02:53:42,960 pressure on with what is going on in the 4234 02:53:46,870 --> 02:53:45,600 field we can't let it go there are no 4235 02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:46,880 answers 4236 02:53:52,630 --> 02:53:49,120 it's it's the the onion is so 4237 02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:52,640 multi-layered uh and the answer to that 4238 02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:56,319 is is very very complex because we don't 4239 02:54:00,150 --> 02:53:57,760 know 4240 02:54:02,710 --> 02:54:00,160 what's going to break first and how that 4241 02:54:04,550 --> 02:54:02,720 is going to be addressed right we simply 4242 02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:04,560 don't know is it going to be something 4243 02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:06,800 over the skies of los angeles or 4244 02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:09,439 vancouver british columbia and and now 4245 02:54:13,590 --> 02:54:11,279 the government has to respond to that 4246 02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:13,600 okay it could be something like that in 4247 02:54:19,269 --> 02:54:16,000 that dramatic could it be a document 4248 02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:19,279 leak could anonymous go and and and and 4249 02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:21,040 hack some computers at the department of 4250 02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:23,439 defense that's a possibility is there a 4251 02:54:27,269 --> 02:54:25,760 lone wolf out there that has retrieved 4252 02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:27,279 documents that the government knows 4253 02:54:32,469 --> 02:54:30,319 about that is about to blow the lid off 4254 02:54:36,550 --> 02:54:32,479 of this and that is out of their control 4255 02:54:38,710 --> 02:54:36,560 is it that is it our military itself or 4256 02:54:39,830 --> 02:54:38,720 probably even more significant and 4257 02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:39,840 heavier 4258 02:54:46,389 --> 02:54:42,720 is it a guy like avi loeb 4259 02:54:49,670 --> 02:54:46,399 is it the world of astrophysics where 4260 02:54:51,349 --> 02:54:49,680 life is going to be found and seen on a 4261 02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:51,359 distant planet 4262 02:54:56,230 --> 02:54:53,600 a radio telescope picking up something 4263 02:54:59,190 --> 02:54:56,240 that is headed towards our solar system 4264 02:55:01,830 --> 02:54:59,200 our star system and that it is going to 4265 02:55:04,469 --> 02:55:01,840 come from the world of science and not 4266 02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:04,479 from the world of wu and not from the 4267 02:55:10,469 --> 02:55:07,680 world of the military is it going to be 4268 02:55:11,670 --> 02:55:10,479 something like that and my answer to 4269 02:55:13,590 --> 02:55:11,680 that is 4270 02:55:16,309 --> 02:55:13,600 it's probably going to be a little bit 4271 02:55:18,790 --> 02:55:16,319 of everything at the same time because 4272 02:55:21,190 --> 02:55:18,800 the drip drip that we are getting today 4273 02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:21,200 again i'm telling you it's tangible 4274 02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:24,479 that it's warming up everybody 4275 02:55:29,830 --> 02:55:27,520 for the big drop and when that drop 4276 02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:29,840 comes uh that we're not alone in the 4277 02:55:34,389 --> 02:55:32,000 universe then we've got to figure out 4278 02:55:36,309 --> 02:55:34,399 how we address it is it going to be from 4279 02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:36,319 this moment forward 4280 02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:39,840 or is it contact happen in 1947 with 4281 02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:42,720 roswell you know and and how those how 4282 02:55:48,710 --> 02:55:46,399 those not only millions of questions and 4283 02:55:51,349 --> 02:55:48,720 and probably one of the main ones is if 4284 02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:51,359 it's 1947 in roswell 4285 02:55:54,630 --> 02:55:53,359 then how long have you known about free 4286 02:55:57,590 --> 02:55:54,640 energy 4287 02:56:00,630 --> 02:55:57,600 and and we've been paying for gas and 4288 02:56:02,710 --> 02:56:00,640 we've had starving people on this planet 4289 02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:02,720 and and we could have applied all of 4290 02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:05,040 this to farming and electricity and the 4291 02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:07,279 heating of our schools and you've been 4292 02:56:12,790 --> 02:56:09,040 sitting on this technology that's a 4293 02:56:14,950 --> 02:56:12,800 complex thing so will it be 4294 02:56:17,590 --> 02:56:14,960 contact has happened now 4295 02:56:19,990 --> 02:56:17,600 not not in the past right it's opening 4296 02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:20,000 up too big of a can of worms and that it 4297 02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:22,640 is going to be addressed now and moving 4298 02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:24,240 on into the future and that's why i 4299 02:56:28,309 --> 02:56:26,640 think it may come from science 4300 02:56:30,309 --> 02:56:28,319 to take the pressure off of the 4301 02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:30,319 governments of the world and the fact 4302 02:56:33,269 --> 02:56:31,840 that they've been sitting on this for so 4303 02:56:36,550 --> 02:56:33,279 long 4304 02:56:41,590 --> 02:56:36,560 nicole you got three minutes 4305 02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:44,150 i can say 4306 02:56:49,510 --> 02:56:47,520 you you know a lot and i think um 4307 02:56:52,230 --> 02:56:49,520 the space travelers out there here are 4308 02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:52,240 back and forth a little bit where 4309 02:56:57,670 --> 02:56:53,760 you know 4310 02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:57,680 this is why i'm in this this convergence 4311 02:57:01,870 --> 02:56:58,640 of 4312 02:57:03,590 --> 02:57:01,880 science technology politics 4313 02:57:06,070 --> 02:57:03,600 spirituality 4314 02:57:07,349 --> 02:57:06,080 and how this moves 4315 02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:07,359 not just 4316 02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:10,080 canada forward or the united states 4317 02:57:15,670 --> 02:57:13,120 forward but how does this truly move us 4318 02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:15,680 together as you know 4319 02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:17,840 means of earth 4320 02:57:21,670 --> 02:57:19,520 and 4321 02:57:24,150 --> 02:57:21,680 i know dave you like to read between the 4322 02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:24,160 lines and your journalism you know use 4323 02:57:27,830 --> 02:57:26,160 your journalistic skills all the time 4324 02:57:30,070 --> 02:57:27,840 with this but 4325 02:57:33,990 --> 02:57:30,080 you know i often find 4326 02:57:36,790 --> 02:57:34,000 ufology outside of ufology you know when 4327 02:57:39,990 --> 02:57:36,800 you talk to experiencers whether it's of 4328 02:57:42,870 --> 02:57:40,000 ufos or 4329 02:57:45,349 --> 02:57:42,880 jesus speaking to a christian you know 4330 02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:45,359 you can find these similarities 4331 02:57:51,349 --> 02:57:48,080 and i think that's really the narrative 4332 02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:51,359 moving forward what 4333 02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,160 we all acknowledge in some way shape or 4334 02:58:00,389 --> 02:57:57,359 form like oh these things happen oh you 4335 02:58:03,190 --> 02:58:00,399 know oh you saw a ufo my friend saw one 4336 02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:03,200 60 years ago it's like become this 4337 02:58:06,469 --> 02:58:05,040 accepted thing 4338 02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:06,479 you know the 4339 02:58:12,950 --> 02:58:10,960 the consciousness aspects of ufology 4340 02:58:15,429 --> 02:58:12,960 well let me let me just let me look for 4341 02:58:17,429 --> 02:58:15,439 the future but but just let me finish 4342 02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:17,439 with this actually nicole i'm going to 4343 02:58:21,590 --> 02:58:20,240 get signed off of my network 4344 02:58:25,349 --> 02:58:21,600 so let me 4345 02:58:28,070 --> 02:58:25,359 let me sign out i i am going to uh 4346 02:58:30,950 --> 02:58:28,080 uh just bang this out right now 4347 02:58:33,269 --> 02:58:30,960 and then we'll pick up that thought 4348 02:58:35,990 --> 02:58:33,279 because i literally have 90 seconds 4349 02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:36,000 before we're all cut off so 4350 02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:36,880 all right 4351 02:58:40,610 --> 02:58:40,000 we're gonna wait for jimmy to get done 4352 02:58:41,830 --> 02:58:40,620 his show 4353 02:58:45,750 --> 02:58:41,840 [Music] 4354 02:58:47,990 --> 02:58:45,760 what a great great night 4355 02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:48,000 to black 4356 02:58:51,349 --> 02:58:49,760 faded black is produced by hill j paul 4357 02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:51,359 renee dennis and kevin announces our 4358 02:58:55,670 --> 02:58:53,279 steve hart of gene vitola mark d kovar 4359 02:58:57,190 --> 02:58:55,680 webmaster is drew the geek music doug 4360 02:58:59,429 --> 02:58:57,200 aldridge intro spaceboy 4361 02:59:01,190 --> 02:58:59,439 spaceboymusic.com 4362 02:59:02,710 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